Hi Dan,

The source is in the jar file that is in the downloaded zip.  Winzip or 7Zip
can open this up for you, but let me know if you need a hand.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Healy, Dan J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  As to the specifics of the CTableTree – is it still possible to get back
> to the code that made up the jar file that is in the distribution?  What is
> in the download is a .jar file, and a set of javadocs, but not the source.
> I have a made use of that jar file, but  without the source available and no
> plan for support, I can't in good faith develop any further.  I am not able
> to get the current CTable that is in CVS working (probably my own fault),
> and I'm only a few days from getting a CTableTree demo working if I can say
> that I have the source to back me up.
>
>
>
> The CTableTree branches in CVS are currently a dead end for me.
>
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.nebula/org.eclipse.swt.nebula.widgets/src/org/eclipse/swt/nebula/widgets/?root=Technology_Project
>
>
>
> is there somewhere else I should be looking?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Dan Healy
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeremy Dowdall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:29 AM
> *To:* Nebula Dev
> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] CTableTree
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I agree with Emil - great email Tom; this is stuff that would be of great
> benefit to Nebula.
> Also, no offense taken, but thanks for your concern (assuming that was for
> my benefit, being the author of CTableTree and the original author of
> CDateTime).
>
> Some thoughts:
> #1 - it could also be helpful to work in some information about supported
> platforms:
>  Dormant: CTableTree - Win32
>  Sandbox: CTabeTree - GTK
> Rebuilding the CTableTree for win32 really took all the fun out of the
> project (for me) - looking back, had I just focused on gtk I probably
> would've had more to hand off to the next interested party.  Also, people
> coming to the project would have a better understanding of what to expect
> and where to begin.
>
> #2 - perhaps a main contact and then a list of other developers and their
> areas of specialty (if applicable)
>
> #3 - a common release could also help bring the members of Nebula together
> - each widget really is a separate project, but the lack of cross-over
> efforts has always been disappointing.  People are busy but generall want to
> help out, so any bits of infrastructure that promote working together would
> be great - perhaps a common goal would be a good starting point?
>
> #4 - I think transfer of ownership should give the original author 1st
> right of refusal, but should err on the side of the code's vitality -
> meaning, if I can't be reached for a reasonable amount of time, then whoever
> wants to work on CTableTree should be able to keep the code alive; if for
> some reason, however, someone wants to take over the code while I'm working
> on it they wouldn't be allowed without some sort of due process.
>
> #5 - why would they want to work under Nebula?  No offense meant here
> either, but there is a cost to working under this umbrella and the benefits
> don't seem especially well laid out... I'm really not sure what they are
> even.  Overall, I've had a better experience with code at Sourceforge and
> have reopened development of CDateTime there (where it began) - I plan on
> reconnecting with Peter and seeing what I can transfer over, but for my
> development SF is good and, most importantly, widgets are fun again.
>
> anyway, just some thoughts
>
> cheers,
>  jeremy
>
>  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Emil Crumhorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Good email Tom.
>
> Allow me to fill in that list slightly:
>
> CollapisbleButtons - Emil Crumhorn
> CalendarCombo - Emil Crumhorn
> GanttChart - Emil Crumhorn
>
> As far as 1.0 goes or Sandbox, The GanttChart is by far ready for a proper
> 1.0 release (of my current 2.0 "alpha" release). There are quite a few
> people using it in production environments and I have basically zero bugs
> filed against it. People seem quite happy with it and most emails I get is
> people asking about extending or customizing.
>
> The other two widgets can wait. CalendarCombo is currently broken on GTK
> with no fix in sight due to listeners not firing where they should, and I
> just heard yesterday about some issues on latest OS/X as well (which makes
> me wonder if it's the same issues). I haven't had time to check that yet.
> CollapsibleButtons is stable as far as the widget goes, but it needs some
> better layout handling, as currently it's a bit of a chore to "push it into
> place", there's also a bug or two filed against it.
>
> Speaking of NattTable, I checked it out, and it is a cool project. Due to
> needing a production table right away I went with KTable + Glazed Lists,
> which is an amazing combination, Glazed Lists are cooler than cool in my
> book and work without a hitch: http://publicobject.com/glazedlists/ .. I
> would love to see the Grid using an implementation of that for example, for
> sorting / filtering etc. KTable itself has some issues, but for what we
> needed it's ok plus GlazedLists came with example models for using KTable.
>
> It seems many table-widgets are somewhere inbetween usable and problematic,
> I truly hope one project can ride out the storm as a fast and stable
> Table-widget replacement would be a very nice welcome to pretty much all my
> projects.
>
> Emil
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Tom Schindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This pops up a question.
>
> 1. Do we need project states
> ----------------------------
> Do we need something like a dormant state for our projects to indicate that
> there's currently no active committer working on them.
>
> I think nebula is structured like the Apache Commons Project which has to
> following sub-project structure:
>
> * The Commons Proper - A repository of reusable Java components.
> * The Commons Sandbox - A workspace for Java component development.
> * The Commons Dormant - A repository of Sandbox components that are
>  currently inactive.
>
> This is no offense to anybody but it would make the situation clear to
> everybody outside.
>
> Looking at the current Widgets I'd structure them the following:
> - Dormant: CTableTree
> - Proper: *needs at least a 1.0 release*
> - Sandbox: CompositeTable, CDateTime, FormattedText, Gallery, Grid,
>          PGroup, PShelf, CollapsibleButtons, GanttChart
>
> Components I'm uncertain about are:
> DateChooser, DateChooserCombo, CalendarCombo
>
>
> 2. Can we maintain somewhere who is responsible for which widget?
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> I currently did find a list who is responsible for what. The only resource
> I found to get this information from are the cvs commits.
>
> PShelf                  - Chris Gross
> PGroup                  - Chris Gross
> Gallery & GalleryViewer - Nicolas Richeton
> Grid & GridViewer       - Chris Gross & Tom Schindl (if vote succeeds)
> CTableTree              - noone => dormant
> CompositeTable          - David Orme
> CDateTime               - Peter Centraf
> FormattedText           - ?
> CollapsibleButtons      - ?
> GanttChart              - ?
> DateChooser             - ?
> DateChooserCombo        - ?
> CalendarCombo           - ?
>
> 3. Can we try to get a release out of the door
> ----------------------------------------------
> Often people come up and say they won't use Nebula-Widgets because they are
> not having had a 1.0 release are marked as Alpha. This situation is not
> ideal because some of them are as stable as any other SWT-Widget is.
>
> I think the following components are ready for a 1.0 release:
> - PShelf
> - PGroup
> - Gallery (Nicolas?)
>
> The following ones are not far away from 1.0 release:
> - Grid & GridViewer
>
> 4. How to move widget-owner-ship if original author is not reachable
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> CTreeTable is an example for a situation that can happen (once more this
> not offense) to any of the widget. The author moves on and after some time
> another person from the community pops up and what's to work on the code.
> How do we decided to give ownership to someone different without the
> feedback from the original author?
>
> Peter there was someone mailing me privately today about a problem with
> CDateTime and Vista. Did you see this one?
>
> 5. A cool new nebula component would be:
> ----------------------------------------
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/nattable/. I know once more a Grid like
> implementation but maybe we can convince them to do their development under
> the umbrella of nebula and eclipse.
>
> I hope this mail is not too long and you all read through it until here.
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Tom
>
> Peter Centgraf schrieb:
>
> The original author of CTableTree and CDateTime hasn't been around to
> maintain them for a couple of years now.  He handed off CDateTime to me, but
> I don't think anyone is maintaining CTableTree aka CTree.  If you want to
> take over the project, I don't think anyone would object.  The code is
> available in CVS in the Technology Project repository, as you can see here:
>
>
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.nebula/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.ctree/?root=Technology_Project
>
>
> --
>
> Peter
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Healy, Dan J.
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:27 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [nebula-dev] CTableTree
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> What is the current status of the CTableTree?  I saw a few conversations
> about it being converted to CTree, but I see that the Nebula project still
> has CTableTree on the home page.  I'm just as happy with that, as I am able
> to get the .jar file to work for me, but I'm not able to find the source in
> the CTableTree download, or in CVS.
>
> I'd be fine with the CTableTree, if I could find the source and fix up the
> presentation a bit.  Or, if there's a component page for CTree that I'm just
> not seeing a link to, I could probably work with that.
>
> Regards,
>
> -dan healy
>
>
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