--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron Jeffries
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2004, at 1:38:39 PM, Appleton
Brad-BRADAPP1 wrote:
> 
> > Has the idea of a separate newcomer forum been proposed? (it could be
> > XP-specific or maybe attempt to encompass agile methods in general)
> 
> > It could attempt to use some suitable posting guidelines and
> > corresponding moderation policy?
> 
> Yes, such a thing has been mentioned. I'm certainly not against it
-- and
> anyone who wanted to could create such a thing. My concerns are these:
> 
>     One person's newcomer question is another person's advanced
question.
>     There is no obvious breakdown of what should go where.
> 
>     Staffing the forum would be difficult.
> 
>     Most everyone would have to join it, just to see what was going
on, so
>     as not to miss any questions, answers, or the opportunity for
followup.
> 
>     Splintering is exactly what XP is not about.
> 
>     Many such new groups have been formed, and none of them have taken
>     hold.
> 
> On the other hand, though this group has upwards of 5,000 members,
it has a
> very small number of frequent posters, a small number of posters at all,
> and at most a couple of hundred people ever respond to a poll. Maybe
this
> is just a small group of insiders talking with each other, with no one
> really listening. Perhaps newcomers wander in and wander out,
perhaps they
> speak and are satisfied, perhaps they are scared away.
> 
> I'm not even sure there's a problem, and if there is, I'm not at all
sure
> what it really is, much less the solution. So I'm hoping wiser heads
will
> think on it.

As one of the moderators, I'm  impressed by the number
of people that pop in on first posts when a topic they're
interested in comes up. I haven't done any kind of a
survey, but my gut impression is that we get roughly
a third or so people who are joining in with something
on a subtopic they are interested in, and about two
thirds with specific questions. Those questions
seem to span the entire spectrum from "what's XP?"
to very specific questions from people who've been
in the field for a while.

We also have a considerable number of people joining
and leaving. That's running somewhere under a hundred
a week on both sides.

I've never gotten into Yahoo admin scripts. I know
such things are out there, and I presume there are
ways someone could shake the Yahoo data base and
get all sorts of interesting numbers to fall out.

John Roth
> 
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com
> Hold on to your dream.  --ELO





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