good for you! 
----- Original Message -----
From: T Eli
To: bfing
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep

It did bother me a lot, especially because Faith was only 6 months old at the time.  We almost switched doctors shortly after, but there's only one other one here in town, and she really sucks (we actually tried her first, then switched to this one because she didn't seem very knowledgeable).  So we're pretty limited.  I've learned to differentiate between medical advice and parenting advice when it comes to listening to what the doctor has to say!

ml obermaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was surprised the dr. would think she is a strong-willed child as the only reason for crying and not seem concerned.  I remember when my sister was little the dr. said not to go over 45 minutes letting her cry, I remember my mom timing her.  The dr. assuming she was just being strong willed and not looking into other reason or giving other hints would have bothered me.
----- Original Message -----
From: T Eli
To: bfing
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:31 PM
Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep

What do you mean by that?

ml obermaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If a child is that upset she probably has something wrong, sensory problems often cause sleep problems, too bad the doctor wanted you to wait it out, I think doing sensory exercise help a lot.  ml
----- Original Message -----
From: T Eli
To: bfing
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 1:50 PM
Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep

Thanks for the input, Renee, and welcome to the group.  You were indeed lucky, and still are truly blessed.  We actually did try that with Faith after coming upon the same problem.  She cried so hard she threw up.  It was horrible.  I talked to the doctor, and he said that's ok, it's not harming her, just stick with the plan and eventually she'll come around.  He was surprised she was such a strong-willed child, and told us that kind of behavior doesn't usually show up until around 18-24 months.  That didn't sit too well with me, but we tried one more night, and that was all we could bear.  Listening to her scream on the monitor and start choking, then running in the room to find her and the crib all full of puke was so horrible, and not worth it.  I still wouldn't trade this for that, as miserable as this can be sometimes.

Renee A Crabtree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, I'm pretty new to this list and this is my first time responding.
I, too, am still nursing my almost 8 month old son. He went through a
terrible sleep pattern where I would rock him to sleep and the second I
bent into a 45 degree angle to put him in his crib, he startled away and
would scream his head off. I think a few things led him to this
separation anxiety...1) When he wakes up around 5:00 am I bring him to
bed with me to nurse and then to go to sleep together. 2) We would rock
him to sleep every night. There was nothing we could do to get him to
not wake up and cry when placed in his crib. I know there aren't too
many fans of the cry-it-out method but since I knew he was not hungry,
sick, or had a dirty diaper, I had to do something to get to sleep. We
started a bedtime routine...Change into pj's, feed, read 2 books, rock
for 100 rocks and then put in his crib. What we did was let him cry for
5 minutes and then check on him. We'd tell him it's okay, we love him
and to go to sleep. Then we'd wait another 10 minutes and go back in.
Then wait 15 minutes. The longest he ever cried was 30 minutes total.
Now, we put him in his crib and he's out in 30 seconds. And he doesn't
wake up until 5 or 6 am. It's bliss. I'm sure we were just lucky but I
thought I'd share in case it could help.

On a side note, if your baby is older he physically should be able to
sleep through the night (meaning 5 or 6) without getting hungry. But
every baby's different, right?

Renee

-----Original Message-----
From: Tami Spillman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:49 AM
To: bfing
Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep


ugg.... so you can't even try to adjust your schedule
to theirs... eekkk. My Mom says that Terri and I were
like a dual alarm clock! We were almost always
wanting the SAME thing at the SAME time. They left us
together for most of elementary school... we were
trouble if spareated. Middle school was the first
"alone time" we had. I remember being excited and
scared at the same time. Terri said that she was
scared to death for the first 2 months everyday..
until we would have a class together. By eightth
grade... we were switching classes.... LOL. But that
first semester of 6th we didn't see each other until
it was time to leave.... we DID NOT like it!
Tami
--- ml obermaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> makes you all feel better Anabelle won't go to sleep
> until about 10:30 and
> wakes once right after, and Briana goes at 8:30
> wakes up at 5:30. They have
> been on different schedules since they were born.
> ml
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tami Spillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "bfing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:36 PM
> Subject: [bfing] Re: nursing to sleep
>
>
> > Brennen seems to be going thru that too. He will
> NOT
> > sleep now until 1am. No matter what I do. I had
> both
> > the younger two going to bed at 7:30. It was soo
> > nice. Now even if I get him to go down then he is
> > back up at 9pm and will NOT go back down until
> 1am.
> > And he gets tricky with the nursing thing. You
> see,
> > he has figured out that if he nurses, he will fall
> to
> > sleep and he does NOT want that. It is espesially
> > hard with DH having to get up at 3:30am for work.
> He
> > has spent the last two nights on the couch :-(
> > Brennen will not settle for anyone else holding
> him
> > either. I hope this all changes soon... I am soo
> > sleepy.
> > Sorry I am not much help.... But I too have a VERY
> > messed up house, am wanting a hot bath too. :-(
> > Tami
> >
> > --- T Eli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, everyone, I need help. I nurse Faith to
> sleep
> > > for naps and at bedtime. We've had a lot of
> > > problems with her and sleep for quite some time,
> and
> > > it goes in spurts, but lately it's really
> wearing on
> > > me more and more. She goes down pretty good for
> > > naps most of the time. At night, sometimes it's
> a
> > > long, drawn-out battle (often well over an
> hour),
> > > other times she's asleep and I'm out of the room
> > > within a half hour (I LOVE those nights!!!). We
> > > usually try to get her in bed by 8:00, because
> that
> > > seems to work best for everyone. We have played
> > > around with the time a bit to try and make
> things
> > > better, but this time seems to work best. The
> > > problem is, once I do get her to sleep, she
> still
> > > wakes up a lot. I know that's normal,
> especially
> > > since I'm still nursing her and co-sleeping.
> But
> > > she wakes up at least twice before I even get to
> > > bed, which I try to usually by 10:00, 11 at the
> > > latest. It is getting so frustrating because
> she
> > > doesn't nap well (usually one half-hour nap a
> day,
> > > though lately she has been occasionally
> sleeping a
> > > bit more), so I don't really get a "break"
> during
> > > the day to get things done. I scramble at night
> > > after she goes to bed to rush and get the dishes
> > > done, laundry caught up, house cleaned, etc. My
> > > hubby is a great help with these things, but I
> feel
> > > bad because he works long hours and then does so
> > > much housework. And we still can't seem to keep
> up.
> > > I've relaxed a lot on the cleaning, but there's
> a
> > > point where you have to draw the line - I mean,
> > > laundry and dishes can only wait so long! DH
> and I
> > > hardly ever get time to just sit and spend time
> > > together, and I NEVER get "me" time. I can't
> even
> > > relax in a hot bath - every time I try, as soon
> as I
> > > get the tub filled and get in the tub, Faith
> wakes
> > > up. We've tried having him rock her to sleep,
> but
> > > she just keeps screaming until I go in and nurse
> > > her, even if I don't go in there for over an
> hour.
> > > I don't know what to do!!!! I don't want to
> wean
> > > her until she's ready, but that seems
> > > like the only "solution". Does anyone have any
> > > ideas to help????
> > >
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