who-knows-where that does not have the same standards? (just to
continue the doctor analogy)
We will always have people that deem things as urgent but I agree with
Brian that people are saying things like, "Urgent - How do I launch
the IDE?" This forum is for helping people, but some people could use
the basic help functions in the IDE to get some of the answers. That
or a quick search through our archive or on google will tell you the
simple things. But this list is not realtime. Who knows even if your
email will get through or if it will be moderated into oblivion.
Yes, this is a world-wide list and people answer questions all the
time, but take a lesson from my kids that are learning to read. Try
to sound it our yourself first and then when you get stuck, ask for
help. Don't sit there and just keep asking for something that you
should know.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:52:50 -0700, Bob Grommes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Brian, couldn't have said it better myself.
>
> The truth is that some developers, even though they know some facts about
> development, lack the basic diagnostic and reasoning skills to be a
> developer (and/or, they lack the discipline and drive to do their own
> research and acheive any depth of understanding). They can modify code
> templates to an extent, but they can't create anything original. The extent
> of their prowess is "trial and error".
>
> The same thing is true in a lot of professions -- medical doctors come
> immediately to mind. Most of them just follow decision trees based on blood
> tests. If there's not a blood test to identify a problem, it doesn't exist
> for them. And if there's not a pill to cure it, the patient is at fault
> somehow for being sick. And every diagnosis is in isolation as if it
> wouldn't be influenced by other conditions or side effects of or
> interactions with other treatments or patient lifestyle / diet / exercise.
> Despite all this, one thing I will give to doctors is that they have more
> self-respect than to have public discussion forums where they allow interns
> to post messages along the lines, "URGENT -- Patient with Hangnail --
> HELP!!!!!".
>
> Maybe we too need a residency program to weed out the worst of these
> wannabees.
>
> --Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Newtz, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:27 AM
> Subject: [C#.NET] This urgent crap...
>
> >
> > [Stands up on pedestal]
> >
> > You know, I'm really starting to get annoyed by the recent amount of
> > posts that say "URGENT" in the subject or something along the lines of
> > "answer quickly, it's urgent" in the body. Even if I see "urgent" in the
> > subject or body, do I answer the question any faster? Do I skip all the
> > rest of the messages I'm looking at just to answer the "urgent" one?
> > ABSOLUTELY NOT. Why? Because it's not urgent to me or the rest of the
> > group. Simply by posting your question you'll get an answer within a
> > couple of hours 95% of the time. That's a pretty damn good response time
> > for a free service.
> >
> > What makes it more annoying is that the "urgent" questions are often
> > simplistic ones. The kind of questions that make you think... wow, if
> > this individual doesn't know how to do this, but it's *so* urgent, what
> > kind of company do they work for who has developers that don't even know
> > the basics?
> >
> > And yes this is a rant - but bottom line is that I would request people
> > refrain from letting us know how urgent your problem is. We don't need
> > to know, and we don't care. It's pretty arrogant to think otherwise.
> >
> > I'll leave you all with a link to a specific section of the article our
> > group uses as a guide for new members:
> >
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#urgent
> >
> > [Gets down from pedestal]
>
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