OK thanks, sure you are right, I see in detail, the disk space of the 
directory is increased for files: files nioneo_logical.log.vXXX
Are they necessary? Can I delete them after closing the db?
Thanks

Rita
Il giorno venerdì 14 marzo 2014 09:28:01 UTC+1, Michael Hunger ha scritto:
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> If you don't insert/update at all, the graph size should not increase.
>
> Remember to restart before you insert to reuse the existing blocks.
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> Am 14.03.2014 um 09:16 schrieb Rita <[email protected] <javascript:>>:
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> OK thank you, I decreased a little bit the number.
> Until now I'm deleting without new insertion, but the size of the graph is 
> increasing! Is it normal? Does it depend on the block marking?
>
> Many thanks,
> Rita
>
> Il giorno martedì 11 marzo 2014 15:02:45 UTC+1, Michael Hunger ha scritto:
>>
>> No, no need to restart the db, the code should look like this:
>>
>> Transaction tx = db.beginTx();
>> int count=1;
>> for (Relationship r : relationships) {
>>    relIndex.remove(r);
>>    r.delete();
>>    if (count++ % 50000 == 0) {
>>      tx.success(); tx.finish();
>>      tx = db.beginTx();
>>    }
>> }
>> tx.success(); tx.finish();
>>
>> It depends on your heap how many elements can be handled in a single tx. 
>> You can also lower that number to 25000
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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>> Am 11.03.2014 um 14:45 schrieb Rita <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Ok, so it will not increase the space with new insertion, I hope to see 
>> soon this after resolving with the delete, because also if I start a new 
>> Transaction every 50.000 elements I got the GC error. It seems that I need 
>> to close and reopen also the graph to avoid this one. Does it keep all in 
>> memory also after tx.finish? But in this way it is too slow. Any other way 
>> to increase speed?
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rita
>>
>> Il giorno martedì 11 marzo 2014 12:58:52 UTC+1, Michael Hunger ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Existing node and relationship records that are freed will of course be 
>>> reused (but only after a restart).
>>>
>>> So if you have a sliding window and delete nodes, then restart your db 
>>> before inserting the new window and it will use the existing record blocks 
>>> on disk.
>>>
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>>> Am 11.03.2014 um 12:10 schrieb Rita <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Thank you for the reply.
>>> Really cannot exist a way to reduce the disk space? I need it. So how 
>>> could I do?
>>> I cannot reimport the data from the beginning because I have to populate 
>>> the graph like a sliding window, I need to remove the older data l and then 
>>> import newer ones.
>>> Does exist some way to "optimize" the graph and index space after those 
>>> deletes?
>>> Yes I have an index on relationships, so I'm deleting them both from the 
>>> index and the graph.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Rita
>>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno martedì 11 marzo 2014 11:34:54 UTC+1, Michael Hunger ha 
>>> scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Neo4j is block based, it will only mark blocks as not in use but won't 
>>>> release them on disk. So your deletion of relationships won't make the 
>>>> database smaller on disk.
>>>>
>>>> You're probably faster reimporting the data with the batch-inserter.
>>>>
>>>> Did you actually index the relationships?
>>>>
>>>> you have to batch your transactions around your delete operations and 
>>>> start a new Transaction every 50.000 elements.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise you will run into GC issues which explain the slowness and GC 
>>>> overhead.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Am 11.03.2014 um 11:23 schrieb Rita <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everybody
>>>>
>>>> I have populated my graph with nodes and relationships with the 
>>>> BatchInserter. Now I need to delete a part of relationships, to reduce the 
>>>> disk space of the graph. I have some problem. I am using the embedded 
>>>> version of Neo4j with Java.
>>>>
>>>> I am using the instruction indexRel.remove(rel) to delete relationships 
>>>> from the index, and it is ok.
>>>>
>>>> Instead I am using r.delete() inside transaction to delete them from 
>>>> the graph. This is very slow, does exist another method  instead of 
>>>> the transactional one? I need also to close and reopen the graph to do not 
>>>> have the error: GC overhead limit exeeded. Someone have a suggestion, 
>>>> please?
>>>>
>>>> Then, why after deleting relationships, the size of the graph on disk 
>>>> do not decrease?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Rita
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