Joel,

sorry, I went back and re-read your original e-mail.
So you said it hangs whenever you set the maxthreads config to a fixed
value?
What I'm confused about is, that the threaddump you shared doesn't show any
blocked / waiting thread handling that request at all.
Did you take the threaddump when it was hanging at exactly that point?

If we can't figure it out remotely I would like to have a look myself if
that's possible at some point.

Thanks so much,

Michael


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Joel Welling <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Michael-
>
>
> >  PS: Your machine is really impressive, I want to have one too :)
> >  2014-03-25 21:02:11.800+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.DiagnosticsManager]: Total
> Physical memory: 15.62 TB
> >  2014-03-25 21:02:11.801+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.DiagnosticsManager]: Free
> Physical memory: 12.71 TB
>
> Thank you!  It's this machine:
> http://www.psc.edu/index.php/computing-resources/blacklight .  For quite
> a while it was the world's largest shared-memory environment.  If you want
> to try some timings, it could probably be arranged.
>
> Anyway, I made the mods to neo4j.properties which you suggested and I'm
> afraid it still hangs in the same place.  (I'll look into the disk
> scheduler issue, but I can't make a global change like that on short
> notice).  The new jstack and messages.log are attached.
>
> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:39:06 PM UTC-4, Michael Hunger wrote:
>
>> Joel,
>>
>> I looked at your logs. It seems there is a problem with the automatic
>> calculation for the MMIO for the neo4j store files.
>>
>> Could you uncomment the first lines in the conf/neo4j.properties related
>> to memory mapping?
>> Just the default values should be good to get going
>>
>> Otherwise it is 14 bytes per node, 33 bytes per relationship and 38 bytes
>> per 4 properties per node or rel.
>>
>> I currently tries to map several terabytes of memory :) which is
>> definitely not ok!
>>
>> 2014-03-25 21:18:34.849+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.n.s.StoreFactory]:
>> [data/graph.db/neostore.propertystore.db.strings] brickCount=0
>> brickSize=1516231424b mappedMem=1516231458816b (storeSize=128b)
>> 2014-03-25 21:18:34.960+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.n.s.StoreFactory]:
>> [data/graph.db/neostore.propertystore.db.arrays] brickCount=0
>> brickSize=1718395776b mappedMem=1718395863040b (storeSize=128b)
>> 2014-03-25 21:18:35.117+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.n.s.StoreFactory]:
>> [data/graph.db/neostore.propertystore.db] brickCount=0
>> brickSize=1783801801b mappedMem=1783801839616b (storeSize=41b)
>> 2014-03-25 21:18:35.192+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.n.s.StoreFactory]:
>> [data/graph.db/neostore.relationshipstore.db] brickCount=0
>> brickSize=2147483646b mappedMem=2186031398912b (storeSize=33b)
>> 2014-03-25 21:18:35.350+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.n.s.StoreFactory]:
>> [data/graph.db/neostore.nodestore.db.labels] brickCount=0 brickSize=0b
>> mappedMem=0b (storeSize=68b)
>> 2014-03-25 21:18:35.525+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.n.s.StoreFactory]:
>> [data/graph.db/neostore.nodestore.db] brickCount=0 brickSize=495500390b
>> mappedMem=495500394496b (storeSize=14b)
>>
>> You should probably also switch your disk scheduler to deadline or noop
>> instead of the currently configured cfq
>>
>> Please ping me if that helped.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> PS: Your machine is really impressive, I want to have one too :)
>> 2014-03-25 21:02:11.800+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.DiagnosticsManager]: Total
>> Physical memory: 15.62 TB
>> 2014-03-25 21:02:11.801+0000 INFO  [o.n.k.i.DiagnosticsManager]: Free
>> Physical memory: 12.71 TB
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Joel Welling <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much for your extremely quick reply! The curl session
>>> with the X-Stream:true flag is below; as you can see it still hangs.  The
>>> graph database is actually empty.  The actual response of the server to the
>>> curl message is at the end of the non-hung curl transcript above.
>>>
>>> The configuration for the server is exactly as in the community
>>> download, except for the following:
>>> In neo4j.properties:
>>>  org.neo4j.server.http.log.enabled=true
>>>  org.neo4j.server.http.log.config=conf/neo4j-http-logging.xml
>>>  org.neo4j.server.webserver.port=9494
>>>  org.neo4j.server.webserver.https.port=9493
>>>  org.neo4j.server.webserver.maxthreads=320
>>> In
>>>  wrapper.java.additional=-XX:ParallelGCThreads=32
>>>  wrapper.java.additional=-XX:ConcGCThreads=32
>>>
>>> I've attached the jstack thread dump and data/graph.db/messages.log
>>> files to this message.  The hung curl session looks like:
>>> > curl --trace-ascii - -X POST -H X-Stream:true -H "Content-Type:
>>> application/json" -d '{"query":"start a= node(*) return a"}'
>>> http://localhost:9494/db/data/cypher
>>> == Info: About to connect() to localhost port 9494 (#0)
>>> == Info:   Trying 127.0.0.1... == Info: connected
>>> == Info: Connected to localhost (127.0.0.1) port 9494 (#0)
>>> => Send header, 237 bytes (0xed)
>>> 0000: POST /db/data/cypher HTTP/1.1
>>> 001f: User-Agent: curl/7.19.0 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.19.0 O
>>> 005f: penSSL/0.9.8h zlib/1.2.7 libidn/1.10
>>> 0085: Host: localhost:9494
>>> 009b: Accept: */*
>>> 00a8: X-Stream:true
>>> 00b7: Content-Type: application/json
>>> 00d7: Content-Length: 37
>>> 00eb:
>>> => Send data, 37 bytes (0x25)
>>> 0000: {"query":"start a= node(*) return a"}
>>> ...and at this point it hangs...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:19:36 PM UTC-4, Michael Hunger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joel,
>>>>
>>>> can you add the X-Stream:true header?
>>>>
>>>> How many nodes do you have in your graph? If you return them all it is
>>>> quite a amount of data that's returned. Without the streaming header, the
>>>> Server builds up the response in memory and that most probably causes GC
>>>> pauses or it just blows up with an OOM.
>>>>
>>>> What is your memory config for your Neo4j Server? Both in terms of heap
>>>> and mmio config?
>>>>
>>>> Any chance to share your data/graph.db/messages.log for some
>>>> diagnostics?
>>>>
>>>> A thread dump in the case when it hangs would be also super helpful,
>>>> either with jstack <pid> or kill -3 <pid>  (in the second case they'll end
>>>> up in data/log/console.log)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Joel Welling <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks;
>>>>>   I am running neo4j on an SGI UV machine.  It has a great many cores,
>>>>> but only a small subset (limited by the cpuset) are available to my neo4j
>>>>> server.  If I run neo4j community-2.0.1 with a configuration which is
>>>>> out-of-the-box except for setting -XX:ParallelGCThreads=32 and
>>>>> -XX:ConcGCThreads=32 in my neo4j-wrapper.conf, too many threads are
>>>>> allocated for the cores I actually have.
>>>>>   I can prevent this by setting server.webserver.maxthreads to some
>>>>> value, but the REST interface then hangs.  For example, here is a curl
>>>>> command which works if maxthreads is not set but hangs if it is set, even
>>>>> with a relatively large value like 320 threads:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > curl --trace-ascii - -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d
>>>>> '{"query":"start a= node(*) return a"}' http://localhost:9494/db/data/
>>>>> cypher
>>>>> == Info: About to connect() to localhost port 9494 (#0)
>>>>> == Info:   Trying 127.0.0.1... == Info: connected
>>>>> == Info: Connected to localhost (127.0.0.1) port 9494 (#0)
>>>>> => Send header, 213 bytes (0xd5)
>>>>> 0000: POST /db/data/cypher HTTP/1.1
>>>>> 001f: User-Agent: curl/7.21.3 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.21.
>>>>> 005f: 3 OpenSSL/0.9.8h zlib/1.2.7
>>>>> 007c: Host: localhost:9494
>>>>> 0092: Accept: */*
>>>>> 009f: Content-Type: application/json
>>>>> 00bf: Content-Length: 37
>>>>> 00d3:
>>>>> => Send data, 37 bytes (0x25)
>>>>> 0000: {"query":"start a= node(*) return a"}
>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< HANGS AT THIS POINT
>>>>> <= Recv header, 17 bytes (0x11)
>>>>> 0000: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>> <= Recv header, 47 bytes (0x2f)
>>>>> 0000: Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8
>>>>> <= Recv header, 32 bytes (0x20)
>>>>> 0000: Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
>>>>> <= Recv header, 20 bytes (0x14)
>>>>> 0000: Content-Length: 41
>>>>> <= Recv header, 32 bytes (0x20)
>>>>> 0000: Server: Jetty(9.0.5.v20130815)
>>>>> <= Recv header, 2 bytes (0x2)
>>>>> 0000:
>>>>> <= Recv data, 41 bytes (0x29)
>>>>> 0000: {.  "columns" : [ "a" ],.  "data" : [ ].}
>>>>> {
>>>>>   "columns" : [ "a" ],
>>>>>   "data" : [ ]
>>>>> }== Info: Connection #0 to host localhost left intact
>>>>> == Info: Closing connection #0
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were on a 32-core machine rather than a 2000-core machine,
>>>>> maxthreads=320 would be the default.  Thus I'm guessing that something is
>>>>> competing for threads within that 320-thread pool, or else the server is
>>>>> internally calculating a ratio of threads-per-core and that ratio is
>>>>> yielding zero on my machine. Is there any way to work around this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Joel Welling
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