Good luck, ping me when you worked it out :)

Cheers, Michael

> Am 09.02.2015 um 23:43 schrieb Paul Shoemaker <[email protected]>:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Just wanted to give a quick update that I have improved heavily on my code 
> that I submitted and have achieved much higher throughput levels on a single 
> thread.  Thank you so much, again, for your suggestion to batch 10k 
> transactions at once.  Now on to a multi-threaded approach :-)
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 7:20:22 AM UTC-8, Paul Shoemaker wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thank you so much for taking valuable time to assist.  I have attached the 
> relevant code and messages.log.
> 
> I will admit that this is not particularly elegant, but it is more POC than 
> anything.  You will see that I am using a transaction per loop trip while 
> iterating through my db resultset.  If that is a particularly expensive 
> operation (I have a suspicion that it might be), I could create pressure by 
> batching 10k at a time.  Would I benefit from using the BatchInserter 
> process?  I am going to try this today and see if I yield better results.
> 
> I would love to use the new batch importer, but unfortunately, as I 
> understand, it requires a clean graph and cannot append to a graph that 
> already exists.  For our needs, we will be performing large data imports to 
> the same graph and they will come at asynchronous times.  Perhaps I could use 
> the new concurrency in 2.2.  Can you please point me to how you can insert 
> concurrently into the same graph file?  My tests have all given me issues 
> because once the file has been opened, it is locked and cannot be accessed by 
> another process.  Or, perhaps, I should open the file and thread out the 
> transactional operations?  I will try this today, as well.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> From: Michael Hunger
> Reply-To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Friday, February 6, 2015 at 2:58 AM
> To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
> Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Import Data From Oracle to Neo4J
> 
> It should be much much faster.
> 
> 1. use larger transactions (10k elements) to _batch_ your inserts
> 2. 2.2 supports much better concurrent/smaller transactions scaling, e.g. I 
> created 10M nodes in 40s with concurrent small transactions (2 nodes 1 rel).
> 
> if you can share your code, we can have a look. Index lookups hurt something, 
> true.
> also share your config (heap, mmio settings etc) best would be 
> graph.db/messages.log
> 
> Cheers, Michael
> 
>> Am 05.02.2015 um 21:50 schrieb Paul Shoemaker <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> 
>> For what it's worth, I ended up using embedded java to write directly to the 
>> graph while the server is detached.  This ended up giving me the fastest 
>> performance as I found the REST interface way too slow for large data sets 
>> (> 1M records).  I'm still not really happy with the performance, but I was 
>> able to achieve 20 - 25 atomic transactions per second while creating 6 
>> nodes (with indexes) with 6 relationships.  On 5 of the nodes, there was an 
>> indexed lookup step (Index object) as those nodes needed to be unique (they 
>> were location nodes - city, state, zip, etc).  For 1.4M nodes total, or 
>> approximately 1.3M postgres db records, the process took around 16 hours.  
>> With the REST api, I noted approximately 30ms - 90ms for each node creation, 
>> which would have taken approximately 24 hours on the low end and 
>> approximately 36 hours on the high end to insert.  
>> 
>> Does my performance seem consistent with reality or is there something 
>> obvious that I'm missing?
>> 
>> I'm going to run a test of something like 50 - 100 concurrent REST 
>> transactions against the server to see if I can speed that up.  I typically 
>> use the multiprocessing module in python or a rabbitmq exchange for such an 
>> operation.
>> 
>> It's unfortunate that the new import tool included with 2.2 can only write 
>> to a new graph db store.  Our use case is graph-assisted data analysis to a 
>> unified store (with logical separation of domains by a root node), so we 
>> need to take advantage of the additive nature of the graph when batch 
>> loading data.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 5:43:45 PM UTC-6, Michael Hunger wrote:
>> Hi Jesse,
>> 
>> there are some tips on the website, 
>> http://neo4j.com/developer/guide-import-csv/ 
>> <http://neo4j.com/developer/guide-import-csv/>
>> 
>> Do you know how to create a CSV from your relational table?
>> 
>> I agree, the batch-importer makes most sense there.
>> 
>> based on the table
>> 
>> id1 varchar, id2 varchar rel_property int
>> 
>> If you create a csv file for the nodes
>> 
>> select id1 as "id:ID", "User" as ":LABEL" from table
>> union
>> select id2 as "id:ID", "User" as ":LABEL" from table
>> 
>> and for the relationships a csv
>> 
>> select id1 as ":START_ID", id2 as ":END_ID", rel_property as "value:INT", 
>> "LINKS_TO" as ":TYPE" from table
>> 
>> and then use the new batch-importer that comes with neo4j 2.2
>> 
>> bin/neo4j-import --nodes nodes.csv --relationships relationships.csv 
>> --id-type string --into test.db
>> 
>> 
>> If you can't use it, I suggest something like my groovy script here:
>> jexp.de/blog/2014/10/flexible-neo4j-batch-import-with-groovy/ 
>> <http://jexp.de/blog/2014/10/flexible-neo4j-batch-import-with-groovy/>
>> 
>>> Am 03.02.2015 um 09:18 schrieb Jesse Liu <liu.we...@ <>gmail.com 
>>> <http://gmail.com/>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All,
>>> 
>>> I'm a beginner of graph database Neo4J.
>>> Now I need to import the data from Oracle to Neo4j.
>>> 
>>> First, I'll describe my application scenario.
>>> 
>>> I have just one oracle table with more than 100 million rows.
>>> The table desc is:
>>> id1 varchar, id2 varchar, relation_properpy int.
>>> 
>>> id1 and id2 are primary key.
>>> 
>>> The oracle server and Neo4J server are set up on the same machine.
>>> 
>>> Now how I can create nodes for each id and one directed relationship 
>>> between id1 and id2 for each row?
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, there are three ways to do this:
>>> 1. Java Rest JDBC API
>>> I've write a code demo and found it's too slow: 100,00 rows per minute.
>>> Besides, it's not easy to establish a Java Environment in 
>>> 
>>> 2. Python Embedded.
>>> I haven't write test code right now, but I think it's not better than Java.
>>> 
>>> 3.Batch Insert
>>> Export the data from oracle as CSV file;
>>> Import the CSV data into Neo4J using Cypher.
>>> I believe it's the fastest way to import data. However, I don't know how to 
>>> do this. All the demo I've seen on the Internet is about adding nodes but 
>>> without adding relationships with specific properties.
>>> 
>>> I wonder is there anybody encounter such scenario? Can you give me some 
>>> advises? Or is there any better solution to import data?
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much!
>>> 
>>> Jesse
>>> Feb 3rd, 2015
>>> 
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