Alright. Point taken. Thanks.

-- N

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Peter Hunsberger <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Get the model correct 1st.  Worry about optimizing it last....
>
> Peter Hunsberger
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Nirmalya Sengupta <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Many thanks for detailed reply. Great points on the importance of the
>> temporal nature of the relationship. You are right: my Use-Case indeed has
>> a time-aspect and I need to capture them in some manner. I didn't mention
>> them because I wanted to keep the query, simple.
>>
>> My question was driven by my concern of about growing size of the Graph.
>> Indeed, if a relationship has served it purpose and we are unlikely to use
>> it ever again, we may want to remove it, may we not? We want to *prune*
>> the Graph of *unnecessary* *relations*. If that is so, how does one do
>> that in Neo4j using Java APIs (I have seen examples of achieving the same
>> using Cypher but at the moment, our software is primarily using Java APIs)?
>>
>> Will appreciate your views on this.
>>
>> -- Nirmalya
>>
>> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 6:47:14 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Hunsberger
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Once a relationship is deleted then you have no historical reporting
>>> capabilities unless you'r managing that somewhere else....
>>>
>>> I don't know about your use case but typically these kinds of
>>> relationships have a time frame associated with them.  Given that a ship
>>> may in fact be moving away from it's destination at a minimum I'd use a
>>> Destination relationship with departure date and arrival date attributes on
>>> the Destination relationship.  However, if you ever want to report on
>>>  trips between certain time periods then the dates might become first class
>>> nodes.  In that case you might want to introduce trips as first class nodes
>>> and have them liked to destinations and departure and arrival dates
>>>
>>> <ship1> --  Traveled --> <trip1> -- Destination --> <port1>
>>> .......................................+ -- Departure--> <date1>
>>> .......................................+ -- Arrival --> <date2>
>>>
>>> You have to watch out for dates becoming super nodes but this is very
>>> generally useful.  You can then also start to collect things like
>>> "scheduled arrival" on the trip or break the trip into segments or legs
>>> each with their own set of dates etc.
>>>
>>> Peter Hunsberger
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Nirmalya Sengupta <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to understand how to model use-cases which require removal
>>>> of a Relationship between two nodes.
>>>>
>>>> Let's say that, we are capturing the current destination of a ship to a
>>>> port.
>>>>
>>>> <ship1> --- MovingTowards --> <port1>
>>>>
>>>> After some time, *ship1* reaches *port1*, unloads cargo, loads new
>>>> cargo and then sails for *port2*. The latest snapshot of the Graph
>>>> should indicate that clearly.
>>>>
>>>> To capture this correctly, I think I should remove the current
>>>> relationship between *ship1* and *port1* and add a new relationship
>>>> between *ship1* and *port2*
>>>>
>>>> <ship1> --- Moving *'X'* Towards --> <port1>, and
>>>> <ship1> --- MovingTowards --> <port2>
>>>>
>>>> How do I achieve this using Java APIs? Is this even the right approach?
>>>> If now, what should be?
>>>>
>>>> -- Nirmalya
>>>>
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