On Jul 7, 5:22 am, figureloop <[email protected]> wrote:
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> But I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get the parts made cheaply by
> factories when you are talking 10000 pieces.  Heck, you can get custom
> laser-cut gaskets from a place in Philly PA for less than $200 set up
> charges.

Apples vs. pears. Laser or profile cutting the letters is a tiny tiny
part of the process - the rest of it is pretty much manual.

Most manufacturers regarded the exact details of manufacture as a
commercial secret, so
a reasonable start would be for someone in a university or research
facility to obtain a broken B7971 and get the cathode & anode
composition analysed.

> Like I've said before, the key is to leverage modern agile
> manufacturing technologies to get the component parts made, then set
> up a low cost, production quality assembly and gassing station.  Then
> all that matters is if the labor per tube can be made cheap enough.

We've had this same discussion several times over the past 10 years -
have a look through the archives. There is absolutely nothing new in
the "agile" approach - the problem here is that whilst you could
conceivably 3d print (or whatever) the guts of a tube, at the end of
the day assembly is a fiddly manual process, Its naive to suggest that
you could just get two unskilled workers, train them & set up a
factory in Malaysia/Thailand/wherever and cover your costs in year
one. Have you ever run a business - I've lived & worked in many
countries, including the far east, and you are conveniently skipping
over the tricky stuff.

Making replacement nixies is undeniably doable - anyone could do it
given enough time & money - the big question is whether you would even
cover your costs, let alone return a profit. It matters not a jot
whether its off-shored or done locally. Nixies are fiddly little
beasts with lots of diverse parts which have to be sourced or made,
then assembled & tested - its a skilled process. Any nixie worth its
salt needs Hg doping in order to get a decent lifespan - there are
Health & Safety & regulatory issues.

When I last costed this out I was working in Singapore and priced it
accordingly - I assumed a market would stand USD 100 for the biggest
nixes with a possible annual run of about 2,500 tubes however the cost
of manufacture was still above the retail price. Break-even was about
5,000 p/a.

How big is the market? Neonixie-l, the premier place (by far) on the
web for nixies has only 400 members - its a niche interest and in this
interesting economic climate, toys costing 600 bucks just for the
tubes (say a grand complete) are not going to be mass-market.

Its doable - you just need deep pockets and a realisation that to do
it properly, it will require a lot of work.

Nick

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