"Are you sure?" - Yes "If there is no balance in the account, and Paypal decides to refund to the buyer, the balance of the receiver will get negative." - You can't have a negative balance. Paypal is not a credit system. That's why it is a DEBIT account. You must have money in the account to buy something (unless you sign up for the actual Credit Card). Think of Paypal as a DEBIT card you can buy at a grocery store - like gift card. You have no money means you can not spend any. "Am I right?" - No Empty box: You think paypal would give you money back simply saying the box was empty? Heh. Try it. They are not fools either. If they started that, then everyone would be claiming empty box. Of course ebay will mark the sellers account, so that if several claims are made against a seller, they will then look into the seller as bad and possibly do something about it. Another scam issue is proof of shipping. If you don't ship with ONLINE trackable proof (UPS tracking, USPS delivery confirmation), then you as a seller will automatically lose any claim against you. Again, speaking from experience. (I sell a LOT on ebay - my ebay IDs have over 16000 feedback, so I have had to deal with MANY issues). Another thing to note....If UPS or USPS loses a package, meaning I ship from Seattle to Sacramento, but UPS loses the package at the hub, then the person will win the claim. Even though I have proof of shipping and tracking to the destination city, but it didn't arrive at the house - paypal will award the buyer the money (Even though the buyer refused shipping insurance). - To make it worse... UPS (a month later) finds the package and delivers it (this time a keyboard to Los Angeles), paypal having already found in favor of the buyer will not give the funds back to the seller. (So, seller is out the product and the money, while the buyer will get both. - Even worse, the seller has the negative feedback from they buyer that ebay will not remove even though the buyer got his money and product. Yes, I got more. Signed - NotBitterAtPaypal PS. Sorry for the long post. In a message dated 5/17/2012 2:18:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Hi! > Paypal will only be able to take the money back if it is still in the > account. Are you sure? I think they can take the money back. If there is no balance in the account, and Paypal decides to refund to the buyer, the balance of the receiver will get negative. Am I right? > So, such a scam works in that he sells item. You pay for it. He pulls > money out. A month later, you realize you aren't getting product, so you > file a claim. Judgement is in your favor, but unfortunately, there is no > money to get back. So, you win, but get nothing. Can anyone confirm that? > This is not to say that the seller could get a tracking number on a > shipment to you with an empty box. I have had this happen a few times as > well. Paypal simply denied my claim, but at least I got a couple of > pretty boxes which are empty. Many possible scams. I can also not confirm that. I have had a broken Super high voltage power supply with a small defect. I proofed it with a video, and got back half of the money of my own estimation of what the unit is worth with the defect. If an empty box would have been sent (never had that) - I think Paypal surey would refund. The trick of the gangsters is different (see my recent emails for the explination) Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
