Ah that's good, because with such substantial HW differences you want to be developing on whatever will be in the final product.
The arrangement for mass production seems to include a commercial clause, so if you are selling commercially then volumes don't matter. The subscription fee is insignificant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUV-AEB2ZrY around 7:20, but if you commit to using an imp in and entire line of products then they are holding you by the...It would be interesting to see how this develops as the imp is more widely adopted. Alex On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:30:23 PM UTC, Zandr Milewski wrote: > > Just confirmed, if you buy an '002 off the shelf and pair it with a dev > account, it's a developer edition. :) > > On 11/6/13, 10:47 AM, Zandr Milewski wrote: > > 001 vs. 002: > > > > 002 is a solder-down module. It has more I/O than the 001 SD module, > > doesn't require the ID chip since it's not going to move from device to > > device, and requires that you bring your own phototransistor and LEDs > > for status and BlinkUp. > > > > 002's are indended for mass production, and mass produced products > > require a subscription for the back-end. Having said that, there are > > certainly hobby projects using modules, and you can get them in small > > quantities from DigiKey and Smartmaker. Smartmaker has breakout boards > > for them as well. The "Amber" reference design includes some sample > > power supply and opto circuits if you want to go with the 002. > > > > On 11/6/13, 5:38 AM, AlexTsekenis wrote: > >> Thanks for that link. I was not far off with my exaggerated conditions > - > >> in the desert on batteries ;-). Unfortunately the BER and antenna type > >> are not stated, but they were not after a carefully controlled > >> experiment with that post. > >> > >> Anyway the achievement that matters is the 100+ meters in a typical > >> configuration and, considering the intended applications, it's a > winner. > >> > >> Yeah I went around looking for a module before coming across the > >> 002...which would be great for integrating an imp into a product and > >> more reliable than the sd card connector. I'm trying to get my head > >> around the differences between 001 and 002. Besides the higher number > of > >> IO pins, they say that a developer's edition is not available for 002 > >> and a subscription requirement is mentioned for 002. > >> http://forums.electricimp.com/discussion/comment/2928 > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:36:57 AM UTC, Zandr Milewski wrote: > >> > >> On 11/4/13, 6:47 PM, AlexTsekenis wrote: > >> > Thanks, looks like purchasing one or two will not be an imp-ulse > >> buy. > >> > > >> > I'm dubious as to the 1km range - maybe in the desert using > >> battery > >> > power, 10F decap, 1bit/s and directional antennae. Certainly > >> not at > >> > 400mA anyway. 100m is plausible and would seem to imply no > >> corners were > >> > cut in the RF section due to its size. > >> > >> The RF design is exceptionally good. (I've known Hugo for many > >> years, he > >> knows his stuff.) > >> > >> Here's the range test, where they lost connectivity at 790m. I know > >> that > >> the AP they used was a Cradlepoint MBR1400, and while this was an > >> IMP-002 (the solder-down module), the RF section and antenna are > the > >> same. > >> > >> > >> > http://blog.electricimp.com/post/56247500373/going-to-great-lengths-with-the-imp-and-wifi > > >> > >> > >> < > http://blog.electricimp.com/post/56247500373/going-to-great-lengths-with-the-imp-and-wifi> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "neonixie-l" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> To post to this group, send an email to > >> [email protected]<javascript:>. > > >> To view this discussion on the web, visit > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/043dd218-ce63-4a16-9f41-03c5bf6f3804%40googlegroups.com. > > > >> > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/bd0668e9-46be-40e0-859c-14638ead0362%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
