John,

Funny you should say that about the od TV. I just retired my old tube TV 
and decided to keep the electronics.
I did find some 2KV ceramics caps but the others are either too small in 
capacitance or don't indicate voltage ( they are quite large though 3/4" in 
diameter )

I resort to places like taydaelectronics goldmine ebay dipmicro etc. So I 
have to keep my part selection narrow or according to what I can find.

Thanks for the detailed information and reply as always.

Take care John


On Friday, November 15, 2013 1:07:33 PM UTC-7, jrehwin wrote:
>
> > Wonderful reply. I really appreciate the link and the explanation. 
> > I now understand why Michael mentioned his method uses simple parts, In 
> comparison to JT HVPS - I haven't a clue where I can source 4700pf 3kv 
> ceramic capacitors hah! 
>
> I get things like that from old television sets, computer monitors, and 
> bug zappers. 
>
> Or you can buy 'em from Digikey/Mouser/Newark or various surplus outfits 
> (Electronics Goldmine often has high voltage capacitors), for example: 
>
> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/S472M69Z5UR63L0R/1290PH-ND/2356826($3.78
>  for ten) 
>
> > Is that last 3kv ceramic to smooth things out? 
>
> Looks that way. 
>
> > In some respects the 4093 derived pulse and cheap parts almost beats 
> playing with slightly harder to find parts using the AC pulse, And trying 
> to solder to the tiny foot print of the HVPS.... Rather interesting. 
>
> It is easier to just use the built-in connector on the HVPS instead of 
> tacking wires to it.  Like many of these things, it depends on what's 
> important to you. 
>
> > Is the inductor choice critical in terms of current or would a simple 
> axial lead inductor work? 
>
> The current is tiny, and the waveshaping function is non-critical, so an 
> ordinary axial lead inductor should be fine. 
>
> > Does one adjust the voltage resistor to get 200V DC output from the HVPS 
> and then add the 100Kohm preload or what is meant by preload? 
>
> The HVPS has trouble staying regulated without a load on its usual DC 
> output - that's what the 100KΩ resistor is for - just to provide a minimal 
> load.  Attach it first, then adjust for 200V (for Vadjust to ground, this 
> works out to around 470Ω). 
>
> > Would 1N49378 diode suffice? 
>
> Yeah, a 1N4937 should be fine.  I just buy UF4007 diodes in bulk (100 for 
> $17) and use 'em for everything. 
>
> > "For doubler DNI C3 and bypass CR3" - Is that electrical engineer terms 
> for omit C3 and CR3(Diode)? lol 
>
> Yeah, DNI means "do not install", and "bypass" (in this context) means 
> "replace with short circuit". 
>
> > As for AC out routing comment, How far did he anticipate a person should 
> or would place their connections in relation to the HVPS it self? 
>
> Since it's a high frequency, high voltage signal, it's going to suffer 
> capacitive and possibly corona loss fairly easily, so it would be best to 
> keep such wires short.  His routing comment refers to the fact that the 
> high voltage AC output can couple back into the power supply's feedback 
> circuitry and cause trouble - so the wire from the AC output should be 
> routed away from the board. 
>
> > More questions then I came in with originally, Always some thing new! 
>
> Questions and answers are how we all learn (both the people asking them 
> and the people answering them).  Bring 'em on! 
>
> - John 
>
>

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