Thanks for the kind words aesops.tech. To keep this thread as illegible and 
technical as possible, could I invite you over to 
here<http://www.saltechips.com/store/> so 
we can configure yours. Alternatively you can get in touch directly 
here<http://www.saltechips.com/contact/>, 
happy to hear from you :-)

Alex



On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:30:52 PM UTC, aesops.tech wrote:
>
> I got onto all three sites with the greatest of ease. nice work and 
> product.  I would like to pickup three for gift's 
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Dalibor Farný <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> it still didnt work, are You sure that there are no firewall rules to
>> deny users from Europe? I tried it via US proxy and it works.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Dalibor
>>
>> 2013/11/22 AlexTsekenis <[email protected] <javascript:>>:
>> > Hi Dalibor,
>> >
>> > Thanks. I'm surprised you cannot access the site, no issues here from
>> > multiple computers. Maybe try from the home page 
>> http://www.saltechips.com/<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.saltechips.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEM9zf908ELQj0qlLC8P8TlquUCdw>
>> > and clearing your cache. Please let us know if you are still having 
>> issues,
>> > there is a wealth of information on the site including equations, plots 
>> etc.
>> >
>> > We have data for the first 7k minutes (6810 to be exact), but I would 
>> like
>> > to collect more before drawing any conclusions. The plan is to do curve
>> > fitting on the collected data points, thus suppressing noise and other
>> > artefacts. If you follow our theoretical working you will see that the 
>> light
>> > emitted is falling exponentially, so we expect the data points to fit 
>> such a
>> > curve:
>> > 
>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/mar06/cantor/fig7.gif<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdeveloperworks%2Frational%2Flibrary%2Fmar06%2Fcantor%2Ffig7.gif&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHMVoWqZTXIg_EFwhoL-864E3EHog>The
>> > sampling rate of the data published is currently slow (1 point per 
>> week).
>> > This Sunday is time for the second measurement. I will need to judge 
>> whether
>> > to increase or decrease the sample rate then.
>> >
>> > Yes, you are right on current affecting sputtering rate. Also the gas
>> > pressure and composition as well as the electrode material may I add. 
>> This
>> > is mentioned in the description and an empirical equation is given. 
>> However
>> > the method we are using is independant from these factors - we are just
>> > interested in the rate that the glass becomes darker. So the experiment 
>> can
>> > be repeated for different currents and tube constructions to optimise 
>> the
>> > tube and operating point.
>> >
>> > We are running it at about 4mA with a constant current sink. This makes 
>> the
>> > glow reach about 3/4 of the tube's length. In other words the tube is 
>> in the
>> > normal glow region and we are 1/4 away from abnormal glow. In the normal
>> > glow region increasing the current increases the area of cathode being
>> > covered by the glow. These conditions were selected to best replicate
>> > typical usage of this particular tube, thus giving the most accurate
>> > lifespan figure possible.
>> >
>> > How is website access now?
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, November 22, 2013 2:16:00 PM UTC, Dalibor wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Alex,
>> >>
>> >> this is pretty interesting! I cant access the website, it is probably
>> >> unavailable now, but the stream is clear! Do You have any graph how
>> >> the absorbance rise during that those 7000 minutes?
>> >>
>> >> Are You running it on specs current or on higher to make the process
>> >> faster? The sputtering is not directly proportional to current, so it
>> >> would be nice to have data for currents from datasheet..
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> Dalibor
>> >>
>> >> 2013/11/22 AlexTsekenis <[email protected]>:
>> >> > It is my great pleasure to announce that the SHINE (SALTechips IN-13
>> >> > Endurance) experiment is now online.
>> >> >
>> >> > For the first time since the Cold War era we are able to rigorously
>> >> > measure
>> >> > the end of life of a nixie tube due to darkening of its glass 
>> envelope.
>> >> > We are super nixited as we can now accurately answer the frequent
>> >> > question
>> >> > of the lifespan of a given nixie.
>> >> >
>> >> > The experimental method relies upon a theoretical basis and custom
>> >> > precision
>> >> > instrumentation developed by SALTechips specifically for this 
>> purpose.
>> >> > In summary, we are monitoring the optical absorbance demonstrated by 
>> the
>> >> > envelope of the tube as cathode material is being deposited by
>> >> > sputtering.
>> >> > The absorbance increases with time, thereby causing the tube to 
>> become
>> >> > dimmer. At some time a brightness threshold is reached which we 
>> treat as
>> >> > the
>> >> > end of life of the tube.
>> >> > The method and experimental setup are described in detail here:
>> >> > http://www.saltechips.com/lab/<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.saltechips.com%2Flab%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFiq6tdXsuwG14NIcf0D9cU7SR_Og>
>> >> > This time we are measuring the IN-13 bargraph tube that is of 
>> immediate
>> >> > interest to us, although the tools and techniques can be used on most
>> >> > glow
>> >> > discharge tubes.
>> >> >
>> >> > We anticipate the experiment that is currently in progress to take a
>> >> > while.Data is plotted live as it is collected and we also have a live
>> >> > stream
>> >> > of the instrumentation screens available 24/7(follow link above or
>> >> > directly
>> >> > here: 
>> >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/from-the-salte-lab<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ustream.tv%2Fchannel%2Ffrom-the-salte-lab&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGNnvH3lWQY2W0dyMaDsL8Dsf_XvQ>).
>> >> >  
>> These are the
>> >> > same
>> >> > screens we use to record data! Nearly 7000 minutes into the 
>> experiment
>> >> > and
>> >> > we are already collecting valuable data.
>> >> >
>> >> > The future of this method is bright as it is applied to measure and
>> >> > compare
>> >> > other nixie tubes!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Alex
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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