Careful with epoxying a heatsink on. A heatconducting paste [dangerous chemical 
usually] OR a very thin layer of heatsink compound and a clip holding the 
heatsink is probably better. How much does the epoxy impede the heat flow?  
[and note I said very thin re the compound?Just enough to fill the tiny voids 
that exist. The usual compounds are heat insulators, but are still better than 
air filling the voids.]  
PS. I know you said the overheating is recent, but I use the opportunity to 
mention this topic.

John k.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kiran Otter 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:44 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating


  The voltage from the wallwart (12V, 1A) is 11.8V under load.  The high 
voltage to the tubes is 172.8V.  It's very difficult to get it right at 170V 
when adjusting R26.

  Something else I wanted to mention; the separator tubes (separating hours 
from minutes, minutes from seconds,) one of them is mostly black, and neither 
of them light properly.  I'm wondering if they're the culprit.  I'm going to 
remove them and see if it makes any difference.

  Also, I have the heatsink epoxied to both U1 and M1; maybe it's M1 that's 
getting hot, not U1?  I'll use a infrared temp gun and see if I can distinguish 
which is getting so hot.

  Thank you for the replies!

  Kiran
   

  On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 11:45:02 AM UTC-4, blkadder wrote:
    I was just having a look at the manual for the clock, and was thinking that 
the adjustable trimpot at R26 should also be checked.  Being it is adjustable, 
could it be that it may have failed somehow?  Just a thought.

    Ron

    On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 7:55:48 AM UTC-4, Kiran Otter wrote:
      Hi folks, glad to find this group!

      I've had a Tubehobby clock for several years, the NCV2.1 with the IN-18 
tubes.  In the past Jonas has helped, and I even shipped him the main board for 
him to repair, but he hasn't responded to my last request for help, so I 
thought I would ask here.

      Recently, I started to notice that other digits in the tubes were 
partially lighting up, and eventually the fuse blew.  My assumption was that 
the K155ID1 drivers had started to go, so I ordered six of them off eBay, and 
tried replacing them.. which isn't hard, everything is socketed.   Well it 
didn't help, so I contacted Jonas.  Jonas suggested replacing C6, which I did 
and it appeared to fix the problem.

      Maybe a month later, I started to notice the left most digit was faintly 
showing numbers, and seemed to be influenced by the next to right digit.  So I 
thought perhaps the drivers I got from eBay weren't good, so I swapped them 
around, trying to see if it made any difference.  Unfortunately, I trashed the 
two original driver chips that came with the kit.  So far swapping the drivers 
around among the six I have, hasn't changed anything.. or if it has, the digits 
lighting that shouldn't be have moved from tube to tube.

      Well I let the clock run like this for a week or so, and one day I just 
happened to feel around the voltage regulator U1 (L7805CV).. and it's blazing 
hot. I put a temp probe on it and it's running at 140F in open air, and when I 
built the clock, I epoxied a heatsink to it.  It never ever used to get this 
hot.  In fact the clock has run for years in a closed enclosure with very 
little ventilation.  It just never produced much heat at all.  I swapped both 
driver chips for two others, and it still gets just as hot.

      When the clock shuts off the display at night, the temp drops to just 
above room temperature.

      So my guess is has to be one of two things I replaced; C6, or the driver 
chips.  I think it's the drivers, and I'd like to get a pair from somewhere 
reputable so I can at least rule them out as the problem.  I've seen some that 
appear to be ceramic, instead of plastic cased.. claimed to be 'milspec' but I 
donno if that's BS or what.

      Any help is appreciated!

      Kiran






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