I have a comment that is worthy of mention but may have nothing to do with your 
problem.

The use of RCA connectors can be tricky. The earth/ground makes after the 
signal connection. That means there is a possibility of very large common-mode 
voltages.

For instance, consider the usual mains CD player and mains amplifier [or DVD, 
VHS tape etc etc]. Most of the consumer hifi gear is double-insulated [in name 
only most of the time ! ]. Much of this equipment has noise suppression 
capacitors from the mains wires to the chassis resulting in the chassis being 
at a voltage-divided potential reference real earth/ground. Say that the two 
equipments are powered up but not interconnected. And, in the worst case, 
consider that the amplifier already has something else connected as an input 
that is providing a ground eg a turntable [or that the amplifier actually has a 
ground attached]. The powered up item you are about to connect as an input to 
the amp provides a voltage at highish impedance and at about half the mains 
voltage to the audio input (centre connection). This can damage circuitry.

Many manufacturer's user manuals say Do Not connect with power applied. Most of 
the time there is no damage. BUT we have all heard the intense hum when doing 
so - it is NOT all due to earth/ground loops.


Maybe you have a multi-potential problem. OR maybe it is due to the overdrive 
of the audio circuit during the connection being made. 

More details of actual circuit needed. Look for things that you can rationalise 
eg earthing/grounding and connector styles. [By this I mean - can you add 
earthing/grounding so that all commons that can be at earth potential ARE at 
that potential; AND does it happen if you make the RCA connection and then 
apply the audio by raising the level suddenly?

If you know what I am getting at you will be able to dismiss the suggestion 
outright or try an idea based on it. IF you do not know what I mean by the 
double-insulated problem or by common-mode voltages then please ask more or 
read more before tinkering - you can inadvertantly make it worse if you don't 
correctly analyse the situation. 

John K
Australia
[PS  re the doubleinsulation specs; have a close look next time you are inside 
gear. I had to add a remote control function to a modern turntable - it was the 
lightweight version and the chassis was plastic and not metal. The inetrnal 
wiring loom was the same production item and had a screw connecting an earth 
lug to the plastic in the same place that the cast metal chassis had. Before 
you ask - It was not a conductive nor dissipative plastic nor had buried mesh.
The tone arm and other metal things still protruded externally and were not 
separately earthed. The 230V mains still arrived on a PCB that held fuses etc - 
all open to the touch internally (not even cardboard covers). There was no 
double barrier - for instance the shield wire for the tone arm if not soldered 
or a piece of solder-wire dropped during manufacture could bridge the mains to 
the exposed metal.  ]



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RHC 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 10:03 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] smps protection question




  I have been playing with a couple of HV smps's I have purchased from alibaba 
with an audio circuit and have found a problem I was wondering if anyone had 
any suggestions for fixing.  Essentially they get very unhappy if one plugs in 
an rca line level input while the amp is turned on.  Here is an example of one 
of them. 


  http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6849909268.html?orderId=68754413558174



  The unit doesn't die outright and still puts out the HV it was set to but it 
gets very noisy. You can see the power led flicker consistently, as soon as you 
put a load on it. 


  Any thoughts on this are appreciated. 


  Bob

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