Hi,
The RoHS test is one of the major requirements in order to obtain CE 
certification. Unfortunately, a lot of tube distributors, clock sellers and 
manufacturers do not have CE certification. I suspect that one of the main 
issues is precisely the RoHS compliance.

As far as I can tell Dalibor does include mercury dispenser strips in his 
tubes. As you said yourself this is in order to prolong the operational 
lifetime of the tubes. This is a datasheet (HYG/CTL/6.3-4.5 
<https://www.saesgetters.com/sites/default/files/Mercury%20Dispensers%20for%20Fluorescent%20Lamps_1.pdf>)
 
of very similar product getter/Hg dispenser to what he uses (probably 
exactly the same). In his tubes there is about 10mm long strip which when 
fully activated with induction heating releases 4.5mg of Hg. This is still 
within the annex exemption cited above of 15mg per lamp (assuming that it 
is applicable). Weather he actually has RoHS and CE certification I do not 
know simply because there is no central register (database) where this can 
be verified. However having invested this much time and finances into this 
business I suppose his does have certification. I noticed on your website (
http://www.swissnixie.com/tubes/RZ568/) that you have purchased nixies from 
him. The CE mark should be clearly displayed on the tubes, or on the 
packaging if they are certified. 

Regarding the certification of old tubes I reckon it is possible, using non 
destructive XRF analysis. Whether it is cost effective, it probably depends 
on the volume tested. However there are huge inconsistencies in the 
getter/dispenser pills. For example I have 18pcs of Z573. From this small 
batch there are tubes with one, two or no pills at all. Hence, in the XRF 
analysis they are all likely to show different mercury concentrations.

I understand you point about liabilities, however aimed at hobbyist or not, 
the clocks and tubes on the European market must be CE compliant. This 
applies to manufacturers and to distributors of consumer electronics 
products it is not just for industrial applications.

Cheers,
Jovani


сряда, 8 август 2018 г., 19:28:14 UTC+1, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. написа:
>
> Hi, 
>
> Just my 2 cents:
>
> I think its not a question of possibility. First of all, i'm not sure if* 
> all *tubes even contain mercury because i bet Dalibor would not use 
> mercury on the tubes he makes. Usually mercury is only used in "long life" 
> tubes. 
>
> One issue is that probably the manufacturer needs to get the rohs 
> certification - and that would take all old tubes out of line. I don't 
> think you can't get a certification on a old stock product. 
>
> Also, there is the question why one would need the certification, which 
> costy and brings liablities. Nixie tubes are mostly only of interest for 
> hobby people, and most of them don't care about any industrial regulations 
> and a lot of them even solder with lead-containing solder wire...If you 
> actually want to sell a product conatining nixies you will have to follow 
> alot of other different regulations from the electronic authorities. I 
> wanted to sell a kit *really legally *but my dreams were blown to dust 
> when i found out what it would cost to get all needed licences, not 
> speaking about actually passing them, just the application for them.
>
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"neonixie-l" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send an email to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web, visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3de09b48-f93b-4389-9051-222baa47963c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to