How are you measuring the pulse current? This can only be done reliable with a 
scope measuring the voltage over the anode resistor during the pulse, and 
calculate the current. You can make a fair approximation by subtracting the 
tube “on” voltage from your supply voltage, dividing that by your resistor. Any 
attempt to use an amp meter will NOT give an accurate result.

 

Bill 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of David Pye
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 4:35 PM
To: neonixie-l <[email protected]>
Subject: [neonixie-l] Pulsed operation and anode current

 

Hi everyone and thanks for letting me join the group!

I am trying to build a multiplexed clock using IN-14 nixies, and have run into 
a problem.

 

In order to get acceptable brightness, in pulsed mode, the current has to be 
much higher to make up for the fact that it is only on for short pulses.

 

>From the data sheet https://tubehobby.com/datasheets/in14.pdf  :

 

For 'direct drive':

 

Firing voltage (no more than) 170V 

Current for digits (no more than) 2.5mA 

 

Multiplex mode :

 

Power supply voltage 190V 

Average current for digits 0.7 - 1.5mA 

Pulse current for digits 7 – 13mA 

Pulse width (no less than) 70µS 

Period 1 – 1.8 kHz 

 

However, I cannot achieve those currents.

 

When I tried calculating the anode resistor value I wanted, (using 
http://www.csgnetwork.com/anoderescalc.html) - using supply 170, sustain ~130V, 
current 13mA, it suggests an anode resistor of around 2.6K, but when trying 
this value, I found that the current that flowed was more like 6mA, and the 
voltage across the resistor was 10V, and 160V across the nixie.

 

For further testing, I briefly tried WITHOUT *ANY* anode resistor.    It was 
extremely bright, with an anode current of around 8mA - and not more!      I 
checked the PSU voltage while doing this, and it was still at 170V, so the 
voltage wasn't sagging.

 

Obviously this would kill the tube if left on for any length of time, but for 
testing purposes it illustrates my issue.

 

I've tried briefly with a couple of IN14s and even an IN12, and the above is 
roughly consistent.

 

So this leads me to a couple of questions:

 

1)   Seeing as the data sheet seems to take care to specify a higher voltage 
for multiplex mode, am I to assume that for some weird reason, the nixies don't 
behave as I'd expect when you are trying to flow larger currents?  ie they 
don't actually try to pull the supply voltage down all the way to Vsustain?  Do 
I need to increase Vsupply to 190V to achieve higher currents e.g 13mA?

2)   If I am happy with the current of 8-9mA at 170V without an anode resistor 
while multiplexing, does it mean that I can (in this specific application) get 
away without an anode resistor then?


Suggestions welcome!

Thanks


David

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