Interesting article. I did not know there was a big issue with the Chinese 
DS3231's but I had my suspicions. Back in November 2019 I ordered three 
4-tube IN-12 clocks for about $25/each from AliExpress (looks like this one 
on eBay: 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-12A-B-Nixie-Magic-Eye-Clock-4-Bit-Glow-Tube-Clock-DS3231-W-Colorful-LED/352836421129).
 
They are similar to some 4-tube ZM102x clocks I have. I was going to give 
two to friends for Christmas.

I fired them all up with new tubes and discovered issues with them. First 
off, the quality of the construction was lousy. The worst I have ever seen 
for one of these prebuilt clocks. Unlike the photo in the eBay auction 
above, the back plexiglass panel has no spacers and is bent over the rear 
of the main board. Also, one of the brass spacers on the front has stripped 
threads and the screw falls out. But that is just the physical appearance. 
One clock was very accurate and I am using that one myself now. The other 
two were lousy at keeping time. One was losing about 2 minutes a day and 
the other was losing 15 minutes or more a day. I was appalled and went into 
the dispute system on AliExpress. After sending many videos of the 
defective clocks, and back and forth on trying different things, we reached 
an agreement where I would pay USD$20 for the one functional clock and keep 
the defective clocks (I offered to send the defective ones back but they 
said to keep them). I did try seeing if I could get the second clock, that 
lost 2 minutes a day, to function better but very quickly it stopped 
working and only displays one digit that does not change (the function 
buttons do not work either). The other tubes are dark. I am guessing the 
CPU blew out. The HV module works so I can scavenge that if I need one. As 
for the third module, I never bothered to do anything more with it and it 
is still in the box. At least that one I can use for testing IN-12's as it 
does count. Just not very accurately. Between the three I at least was able 
to create one good clock from the parts.

So after all that, I noticed very quickly these clocks disappeared from 
AliExpress from the various vendors that were selling time. I guess I was 
not the only person who had problems with them. A few did reappear in the 
new year at a prices similar or higher to this one on eBay. It is possible 
they might be manufactured by a more reliable (by China standards) 
manufacturer and work correctly. At least the pictures look nice. At least 
eBay and AliExpress have good customer service and if you wind up with a 
piece of junk they will work to fix the problem

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 1:29:49 PM UTC-4, celzey11 wrote:
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> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/bj3sbf/how_to_identify_counterfeit_rtc/
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> Interesting thread about cheap DS3231 chips
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>> There are also counterfeit devices, easily found on the dirt-cheap cards. 
>> See what yours does at midnite on New Year's Eve......
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