Would just a chunk of granite (or a granite kitchen worktop if you have one) be good as a cheap starting point?

On 27/11/2020 10:56, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote:
I advise against using smoke detectors. To detect heir alpha radiation, you would have to disassemble the source until you get to the radioactive isotope plated strip - or button - element. This is sort of not allowed, and also can be very dangerous if you scratch off radioactive material. From outside the detector you can only detect the Gammas from the Am-241 Also Quantities are sort of really high in these devices, depending on make and model (1-100 uCi Am-241). If you really want to have alpha radiation, i would purchase a Po-210 source from here:
https://www.spectrumtechniques.com/products/sources/disk-sources-and-source-sets/

They are like 60$, safe and legal to handle. Only disadvantage is short half life of 138 days. You also can find high power Po-210 sources here: https://www.imagesco.com/geiger/radioactive-sources.html

Paul Andrews schrieb am Donnerstag, 26. November 2020 um 17:00:06 UTC+1:

    And by 'alpha', I meant 'beta'. I actually did mean alpha, but I
    was wrong. Still my old Geiger/Muller tube couldn't detect
    anything from these nixies, so at least I can now detect beta
    particles. Now I need to find an alpha source! Smoke detectors
    apparently.

    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-5 Pramanicin wrote:

        Still a bit of juice left!

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Nov 26, 2020, at 07:25, Paul Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:

        Finally got an alpha detector for my GK-Mini geiger counter.
        First picture is a regular nixie tube. Second is one doped
        with Kr85
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        On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 9:20:54 AM UTC-5 SWISSNIXIE -
        Jonathan F. wrote:

            Could also be Ra-226 on the 6140

            gregebert schrieb am Mittwoch, 4. November 2020 um
            16:32:02 UTC+1:

                Maybe it's Thorium, used in the filaments.

                On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 4:13:16 AM UTC-8
                Paolo Cravero wrote:

                    Hi.
                    Let me add two pictures and a story.

                    Lately I picked up locally a bunch of small CRTs
                    (2BP1, that also fit in the vintage tuner
                    currently on eBay, plus a Marantz) and the guy
                    had a few NIB tubes too. I was looking for
                    gas-filled ones and that resulted in a W.E. 6167
                    dekatron, some 0B2WA and some W.E. 6140/423A. Of
                    particular interest was the 6140 shown in the
                    picture whose box mentions Kr85, but no symbol on
                    the glass.
                    When I came home I checked with a Geiger counter
                    and SBM-20 probe (hard beta and gamma particles)
                    these tubes and the 6140 from 11/61 shows no
                    action. Same goes for other 6140 except for one,
                    much older from 12/52 marked 423A. Neither the
                    box nor the glass carry any warning sign, but
                    this tube hits >600 CPM vs 40 CPM background when
                    put close to the SBM-20 probe (it's not the right
                    way to measure radiation, but it's cool :) ).
                    There is definitely something else than Kr-85 in
                    there! I have blurred pics of it and it has been
                    stored away from home.

                    As already mentioned, Nixies did contain Kr-85
                    and I knew I had one clearly marked. It's a
                    Burroughs Self-Scan display that probably needed
                    some "doping" to handle the almost 1 MHz scan
                    rate. BTW, it contains gas and I might never use
                    it, so if someone wants to experiment with
                    self-scan contact me off the list.

                    One question for the knowledgeable people in
                    here. I have some Mullard Nixies marked "Kr-0A":
                    has it got something to do with Kr-85? I can't
                    check with the Geiger since my probe does not
                    detect Kr-85 leftovers.

                    So, if you are on the hunt for active tubes,
                    better look for unmarked pre-1960 editions and
                    carry a Geiger counter with you ;)

                    Paolo

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