Paul - Do any of your failed NOS units have a black or silvery coating 
inside the glass ? I'm hoping that is caused by sputtering, and not simple 
aging.

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:32:45 AM UTC-8 Paul Andrews wrote:

> I have about 12 6844A, all NOS, none of them work - they show the same 
> symptoms that you described.
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 1:45:30 AM UTC-5 gregebert wrote:
>
>> I have not been able to figure that out for years. You would think the 
>> internal leads were coated with an insulator so they dont glow, or perhaps 
>> they use a different metal with a higher workfunction than the actual 
>> cathodes, so they would not glow in normal circumstances. But when the 
>> cathodes are still visible, I dont understand why they have no glow. I 
>> doubt they would be selectively plated with another metal, which completely 
>> sputtered away, leaving them unable to glow.
>>
>> I have a bag of dead nixies, mostly 5031/6844,  took 2 out, and 
>> microwaved them for 2 seconds. Got a brilliant crimson glow. One of them 
>> shows some cathodes working, so now I have to go back thru the bag to make 
>> sure I find the totally dead ones, or at least the ones that have glowing 
>> only on the bondwires, and nuke them in the microwave oven. I have other 
>> boxes for dying nixies, and so-so nixies, so I'm really surprised anything 
>> in the "body-bag" of dead ones actually glowed. Unless perhaps the zap from 
>> the microwave oven did something to the internal metal.
>>
>> I have some more experimenting to do.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:57:40 PM UTC-8 Chuck wrote:
>>
>>> Burroughs 6844A is domed not flat.   I also have some National 
>>> Electronics NL-6844A tubes.  Frankly, I have had much better
>>>
>>> luck with the National Electronics brand.   This recently purchased 
>>> batch of (8) Burroughs 6844A tubes is a bad batch.
>>>
>>> The boxes all are stamped MAR 4 1968.  The tubes themselves are 
>>> date-coded 6750 F20.  In white letters stenciled on the glass:
>>>
>>> "Burroughs 6844A NIXIE".
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> The test I did was that the anode got connected to +170 volts DC through 
>>> a 15k resistor.   Then the digit cathodes were selectively
>>>
>>> grounded to the negative side of that power supply.    On all (8) of 
>>> these Burroughs tubes, most of what is seen is an intense glow concentrated
>>>
>>> around the tiny internal wires which connect the digit cathodes of the 
>>> stack, to the pins.   These tiny wires pass closely to the outside of the
>>>
>>> Anode casing which surrounds the digit stack.   The glow strikes in the 
>>> wrong place.   The glow is around the lead wires instead of being
>>>
>>> around the digits.    I am very confident from the way these tubes were 
>>> in those boxes, that only one of the batch had even ever been out of the 
>>> box.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> So I am curious what causes the glowing lead wires.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>

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