I tried to order from them some years ago but if I remember correctly they 
weren't that interested if I didn't want 10.000 or more, nor were they 
interested in helping me with information on other types.

/Martin

On Thursday, 14 January 2021 at 02:03:50 UTC+1 Pramanicin wrote:

> Was tooling around the interwebs looking for neons...
>
> https://www.intl-lighttech.com/applications/neon-lamps
>
> Looks like they have quite the selection for sale, including colored neons 
> too....anyone purchased from these folks?
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 3:19 PM Dekatron42 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Usually you can't do anything effective about it, it is due to their 
>> design. However running them at higher current for some time or running 
>> them on half-wave rectified voltage for a while (lower current according to 
>> some datasheets in this setup) will help some but most fall back into the 
>> flickering state when you run them under normal conditions. A nice site on 
>> the flickering behaviour can be found here: 
>> http://g3ynh.info/disch_tube/lamp/flame_neon.html.
>>
>> Sometimes pulse-drive, either by half-wave rectified voltage or simple 
>> on/off square pulsing will help somewhat, instead of relying on a steady DC 
>> voltage.
>>
>> /Martin
>>
>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 23:16:18 UTC+1 Pramanicin wrote:
>>
>>> Ugh. Anyone aged them to see if that helps?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:49 PM David Pye <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Loads of people have reported this and afaik there hasn't been a way to 
>>>> stop it.
>>>>
>>>> Some start swirling after a while, some swirl from new....
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 21:18 Nicholas Stock, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone had any issues with INS-1 neons showing moving ionization in 
>>>>> the bulb (similar to the same problems you can sometimes see with INS-3 
>>>>> neons)? If so, any pointers on how to mitigate this behaviour?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
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