There are many types/models of NE-2 neons, look at the table at the end of 
the book "Using and Understanding Small Neon Lamps" by William G Miller, 
might be in the files section on teh forum or can be downloaded from the 
internet, the list contains recommended resistor values for 115 VAC - the 
resistance value varies from 30k to 250k for the various models of NE-2.

/Martin

On Sunday, 24 January 2021 at 17:07:42 UTC+1 philthepill wrote:

> Yohan   sorry for misspelling your name.
>
> Pharma Phil
>
> ---------- Original Message ---------- 
> From: Yohan Park <[email protected]> 
> Date: January 23, 2021 at 7:10 PM 
>
> Phil, sorry I'm getting back at this but I think you're seriously 
> overdriving these NE-2 bulbs. 
> Even the high brightness versions need a 33K resistor. 
> Regular NE-2 bulbs (which you most likely use as well) require around 150K 
> I'm running standard brightness bulbs in my wall switches on 230V and I'm 
> using 330K 
> Always go as high as you can with resistor value. 
> I've been running standard bulbs on 220K and they became luke warm to 
> touch. This reduces the lifetime of the bulb and can cause blackening of 
> the glass. 
>
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 1:52:34 AM UTC+1 philthepill wrote: 
>
> I make my own lighted switches...
>
> I connect NE-2 lamps with a 20 K-ohm resistor at both ends of about 8 
> inches wire, drill a small hole in the switch face plate and push the end 
> of the lamp thru just a little and hot melt glue it in place. If the face 
> plate is white, you can just glue the lamp to the backside of the faceplate 
> and it will shine thru. I wire the other ends of the resistors to the hot 
> and neutral terminals that go to the light. When the light is off, the neon 
> lamp lights, and when the light is on, the neon is off. You can find all 
> the light switches in my house at night just by looking for the neon glow. 
> They have never needed replacing. If you want to be super safe, you can use 
> 4 x K-ohm resistors, two just next to the neon body and the other two at 
> the other end of the wires. I use heat shrink over the resistor connections 
> in both cases. Very cheap and effective but not UL or CSA approved.
>
> Pharma Phil 
>
> ---------- Original Message ---------- 
> From: Nick Andrews < [email protected]> 
> Date: January 15, 2021 at 12:20 PM 
>
> Sweet! I've been thinking of looking for a lighted switch in the 'on' 
> position for the attic lights we installed to maybe remind us to turn them 
> off. Been up there a bit lately, running cable. More cameras, power, commo. 
> New NVR has 10 cameras, I think have added about a dozen new duplex 
> outlets, and so far 17 runs of cat5 through the house. More to come. 
>
> Yes, some thermostats had mercury bulbs in them, the bigger ones having 
> bigger bulbs. I grab those wherever I can find them, getting scarce now. 
> There were also contactors with a fairly significant amount in them, but 
> tricky to open for recovery. OLD ignitrons I think had a large amount in 
> them. Sure mercury can be toxic, but it kills me to see the ridiculously 
> idiotic overreactions to things like broken fluorescent bulbs in schools or 
> places. I know a guy who built a box device to try recovering the mercury 
> from old bulbs. It wasn't worth the hassle. A 4' flo bulb has what, about 
> 1/20 of a drop of mercury in it? I've broken hundreds of them, and 8' ones 
> too in my time. In high school we used them for lightsabers at the 
> university dump. 
>
> I use mercury in my carburetor sync gauge for my bike. I know they make 
> some now with a little tungsten rod in them which are safer, and maybe I'll 
> buy one some day. But for now, I'll hoard my little stash... 
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:15 AM martin martin < [email protected]> wrote: 
>
> Greetings all, 
>
> These are no longer available in the US as of 40+ years ago. I found one 
> in a box and had to put it back in to service! 
> They were sold as "silent switches". Small tube of mercury to make the 
> contact and the toggle switch has a large NE-2 for a nice looking night 
> light. 
>
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