European tube nomenclature data source.

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> Francis Purcell <[email protected]>: Jun 21 09:54PM -0700
>
> Hello from a longtime lurker….
>
> The point first…I need 2 clear 568(0) tubes :-(
>
> The back story….Ages ago in the 70s when I was in my teens I built a very
> dangerous small 4 tube nixie clock.. using modified guts from an old
> pinball machine and an electric clock motor from an old range. As the
> second hand on the clock made an electrical contact on a set of points
> from
> a distributor… The modified pinball score counters would make contact and
> change the numbers on the Boroughs tubes… I can still remember the smell
> of the ozium and the sound of the zorching ..Sort of think of bumper cars
> :-) and the spark and smell!
> Time moves forward and I found a guy named Jeff Thomas and bought one of
> his very early NIxie sat clocks….Think of opening the box and getting a
> major prize… Just like the leg lamp in Christmas story!
> I love the clock! It stopped working… I find a guy That is really really
> helpful and incredibly knowledgeable and nice! Michael at bad nixie Got it
> up and running again beautifully with a new gps puck…with a motion
> detector
> …new firmware and made all necessary component mods ! He does amazing
> work.
> I can’t recommend him enough!
> The clock sat on the window sill since I got it about a decade ago… while
> the clock was out for repair… The cat who came to my home after the clock
> about 6 years ago…Decides that it’s now OK to jump up on the vacant
> windowsill. Clock comes back… Clock is working for about three months…
> Owner comes home last Thursday night and notices clock on floor!
> One tube completely smashed and the other tube is missing a tiny point at
> the top… Just enough to have let all the gas out. Fortunately the other
> four are in good working condition.
>
> I need two good functioning clear tubes.. if anyone here has a pair I am
> very willing to talk and spend within the “new normal”… Or if anybody has
> advice on where to get them I would be very appreciative for your
> recommendations. I love this clock I really would like to get it going
> again… Soon!
>
> I already have a new spot for it in a sealed glass bookcase!!!
>
> admittedly I’m a little conflicted because I love the clock… And love the
> cat… And currently in that order :-)
>
> Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
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> Joe Croft <[email protected]>: Jun 21 06:08AM -0500
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> Nice Catch! Makes me wish I wasn't a hermit ;)
> -joe
> On Sun, 2021-06-20 at 16:36 -0700, martin martin wrote:
> Bill Notfaded <[email protected]>: Jun 21 05:40AM -0700
>
> Nice find Martin! I have a collection of Eldorado counters... they're
> really nice. What's the one on the right with seemingly no markings? I'm
> curious what that thing is?
>
> Bill
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 4:08:11 AM UTC-7 joenixie wrote:
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> Adrian Godwin <[email protected]>: Jun 21 03:08PM +0100
>
> The one to the right has a decimal point, which would suggest voltage. But
> it has a lot of precision for something that old.
> Maybe it's a digital readout for something like a machine tool or a
> microscope positioning system ? The 'space-age' format might be appropriate
> for a something like an electron microscope.
>
> Terry S <[email protected]>: Jun 21 04:36PM -0700
>
> I think I've seen that display on a CMM. But the front panel had markings
> IIRC.
>
> Terry S <[email protected]>: Jun 21 07:13PM -0700
>
> I should say a similar display. It had multiple nixie readouts.
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:36:31 PM UTC-5 Terry S wrote:
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> martin martin <[email protected]>: Jun 21 07:48PM -0700
>
> Inside
>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 4:36:55 PM UTC-7 martin martin wrote:
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> Bill Notfaded <[email protected]>: Jun 21 09:06PM -0700
>
> I think it may be similar to my X Y display for milling or lathe back in
> the day. I have a large nixie display that shows X and Y. The vertical on
> the back maybe gives it away idk?
>
> I'll eventually put up video of mine. I have so much stuff it's out of
> control. I always think wow that's really cool then move onto something
> else. Now my house is full of test gear. It's all got a story though so I
> hope to one day tell it in more detail. Vintage display technology nut,
> voltnut, and timenut is basically me outside of work.
>
> Bill
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> Bill Notfaded <[email protected]>: Jun 21 05:38AM -0700
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> The Beehive one looks pretty rare to me. If it's from the 1930's that's a
> keeper. I've seen the other one before... not sure what the use was but
> they're more common.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 10:08:28 PM UTC-7 J Forbes wrote:
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> Cqr <[email protected]>: Jun 21 01:50PM +0100
>
> Yep, UK, I got the bulbs from a salty old sailor ( actually a photographer
> :) ) in a London boatyard when I fixed his RAID disk array for him! He got
> them in a jumble sale years ago. Funny where these things turn up...
>
> Cheers,
> Robin.
> "Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 07:42PM +0100
>
> As some of you know, I am fond of vintage coin slot amusement machines.
> If they contain nixie tubes, then what's not to like even more?
>
> The Golden Mint slot machine was made by Sturgeon Electronic
> Manufacturing Co. Ltd. of Bognor-Regis, Sussex, England in the 1960s.
> There were 240 pennies in a pound, so this was not gambling for high
> stakes.
>
>
>
> John S
> gregebert <[email protected]>: Jun 21 12:27PM -0700
>
> > As some of you know, I am fond of vintage coin slot amusement machines
>
> I hope you've been able to visit Tim Hunkin's creations. He provides some
> clips of them on his youtube videos (secret life of components). No idea
> when I'll ever be in the UK again, but I'll be sure to visit Novelty
> Automation.
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:42:20 AM UTC-7 Nixcited delighted wrote:
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> "Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 09:52PM +0100
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> Resent in a new thread…
>
> As some of you know, I am fond of vintage coin slot amusement machines.
> If they contain nixie tubes, then what's not to like even more?
>
> The Golden Mint slot machine was made by Sturgeon Electronic
> Manufacturing Co. Ltd. of Bognor-Regis, Sussex, England in the 1960s.
> There were 240 pennies in a pound, so this was not gambling for high
> stakes.
>
>
>
> John S
> "Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 10:12PM +0100
>
> I found a better picture of Golden Mint.
>
> John S
>
>
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> On 21/06/2021 21:52, Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ wrote:
> Resent in a new thread…
>
> As some of you know, I am fond of vintage coin slot amusement machines.
> If they contain nixie tubes, then what's not to like even more?
>
> The Golden Mint slot machine was made by Sturgeon Electronic
> Manufacturing Co. Ltd. of Bognor-Regis, Sussex, England in the 1960s.
> There were 240 pennies in a pound, so this was not gambling for high
> stakes.
>
>
>
> John S
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> "Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 10:03PM +0100
>
> I don't have a date for this rare English coin-operated machine, nor
> even a manufacturer. Nor do I have a picture of it lit up. You set a
> number - today's stock price, or whatever - on the nixies using five key
> switches on the front panel. The payoff depends on how many of the five
> numbers you match. The reels are motor driven steppers. The five 'match'
> nixies in the round windows are 3 inches in diameter, very desirable. I
> wish I had more information.
>
>
>
>
>
> John S
> Adrian Godwin <[email protected]>: Jun 21 10:11PM +0100
>
> It's unusual (for me, at least) to see them in an application that isn't
> electronics or laboratory. Even in pinballs I've never seen them - they
> went from stepper reels to panaplex panels and then to dot-matrix.
>
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> Philips DP7-32 cathodic ray tube
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> Paolo Cravero <[email protected]>: Jun 21 06:38PM +0200
>
> Hello.
> Last weekend it was [electronics] flea market time! It was very nice to
> attend this kind of event after 9 months, while it was sad to see on the
> tables "new" stuff that belonged to who has passed away.
>
> Besides the whole display board from an expensive Rohde&Schwarz EK47
> receiver with sockets, 74141 and 6x ZM1182 Nixies, I scored a NIB Philips
> CRT: *DP7-32-01*. While the cardboard box has been opened, the tube is
> still sealed in the plastic bag and part of the marking has stuck to it.
>
> While I know the DG7-32 part, I cannot find online a datasheet for DP7-32
> CRT. Comparing other Philips datasheets (
> https://frank.pocnet.net/sheetsD1.html) the *DP* marking should refer to
> dual-color/persistence tube: blue with short, greenish-yellow with long
> persistence.
>
> Am I correct to assume that D*G*7-32 and D*P*7-32 should have the same
> electrical characteristics?
>
> A clock with this kind of tube does require a custom firmware with proper
> effects.
> Paolo
> Ian Vine <[email protected]>: Jun 21 06:32PM
>
> Must have been nice to get back out there.
> Ian On Monday, 21 June 2021, 17:40:06 BST, Paolo Cravero <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello.
> Last weekend it was [electronics] flea market time! It was very nice to
> attend this kind of event after 9 months, while it was sad to see on the
> tables "new" stuff that belonged to who has passed away.
>
> Besides the whole display board from an expensive Rohde&Schwarz EK47
> receiver with sockets, 74141 and 6x ZM1182 Nixies, I scored a NIB Philips
> CRT: DP7-32-01. While the cardboard box has been opened, the tube is still
> sealed in the plastic bag and part of the marking has stuck to it.
>
> While I know the DG7-32 part, I cannot find online a datasheet for DP7-32
> CRT. Comparing other Philips datasheets (
> https://frank.pocnet.net/sheetsD1.html) the DP marking should refer to
> dual-color/persistence tube: blue with short, greenish-yellow with long
> persistence.
>
> Am I correct to assume that DG7-32 and DP7-32 should have the same
> electrical characteristics?
>
> A clock with this kind of tube does require a custom firmware with proper
> effects.
> Paolo
>
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> "Tidak Ada" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 09:54PM +0200
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
>
>
> Indeed the tubes are electrically identical.
>
> The second letter in the type number denotes the phosphor color and
> properties.
>
> The tube has a symmetrical deflection. Important for a clock J
>
>
>
> Here a copy of my Philips Pocket Book for Ham’s with the explanation of
> the Pro Electron Code (European equivalent of Jedec) and the data of your
> tube.
>
>
>
> Have fun,
>
> eric
>
>
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> Van: 'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l [mailto:[email protected]]
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> Must have been nice to get back out there.
>
>
>
> Ian
>
> On Monday, 21 June 2021, 17:40:06 BST, Paolo Cravero < <mailto:
> [email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
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>
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>
> Hello.
> Last weekend it was [electronics] flea market time! It was very nice to
> attend this kind of event after 9 months, while it was sad to see on the
> tables "new" stuff that belonged to who has passed away.
>
> Besides the whole display board from an expensive Rohde&Schwarz EK47
> receiver with sockets, 74141 and 6x ZM1182 Nixies, I scored a NIB Philips
> CRT: DP7-32-01. While the cardboard box has been opened, the tube is still
> sealed in the plastic bag and part of the marking has stuck to it.
>
> While I know the DG7-32 part, I cannot find online a datasheet for DP7-32
> CRT. Comparing other Philips datasheets (
> https://frank.pocnet.net/sheetsD1.html) the DP marking should refer to
> dual-color/persistence tube: blue with short, greenish-yellow with long
> persistence.
>
> Am I correct to assume that DG7-32 and DP7-32 should have the same
> electrical characteristics?
>
> A clock with this kind of tube does require a custom firmware with proper
> effects.
> Paolo
>
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> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 02:03PM -0700
>
> Isn't that the one used in the Marantz 10B (and presumably the Marantz
> 10)? You can probably infer a useful set of operating conditions from the
> service manual.
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> "Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ" <[email protected]>: Jun 21 09:51PM +0100
>
> Whittaker Bros., from Shaw in Lancashire, England, produced a variety of
> simple coin-operated machines with interchangeable perspex screens.
>
> Two nixie tubes were placed in the eyes of various characters. Your job
> is to put a coin in and use a button to stop the display on winning
> numbers, to gain a payout.
>
> I have details of machines various called "Beat the Blinkers", "Beat the
> Bandit" and "Beat the Clown".
>
> The machines featured a standard GPO (the UK Post Office) Strowger
> uniselector, a bell-type system to step the selector and the two nixie
> tubes.
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