Thank you Jeff. I have a few 7971’s in a box from quite a few years back from the US Mint outfit. Might be needing that method.
IanV > On 27 Aug 2021, at 22:15, Jeff Walton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tape the tube to a wooden dowel, like a closet rod, and pin one end on a > carpeted surface so that you can smack the entire length of the dowel (with > the taped 7971) against the carpeted floor. This will transfer the shock to > the full height of the 7971 and separate the overlapping segment ends. I > usually tape the tube tightly with masking tape so that the face of the > digits is perpendicular to the floor. I've successfully fixed at least a > half dozen tubes this way and not broken any. > > I know that there have been other threads with photos. And yes, you will > feel really apprehensive when you do it the first time. I haven't had one > that didn't get cured... > > > Jeff > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: 'Ian' via neonixie-l <[email protected]> > Date: 8/27/21 2:48 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana > > I’m not heard of the wooden dowel method. Is that just hitting the tube? > > In the dark > IanV > >>> On 26 Aug 2021, at 15:56, Robert G. Schaffrath >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> $1 for a B-7971?!?! Incredible. The best price I ever saw was late >> 1970's/early 1980's when they were still common. As I mentioned in the past, >> I got six NOS B-7971's around that time from Meshna Electronics for $5/each >> IIRC. The used ones were $1 cheaper and I decided to splurge. The first >> eight tubes I got came in pairs on the old stock ticker boards. One tube was >> defective leaving me with seven good ones. I believe I paid something like >> $8/each for the boards. Some from Poly Paks and some from Meshna. It has >> been so long many of the details escape me. I still have that "defective" >> tube that I have been debating about selling. It had shorted segments and >> various attempts at fixing it over they years before learning about the >> "wooden dowel" method that worked resulted in some segments getting damaged. >> Tube still intact and several segments still light up so it is useful as a >> novelty but it will not display all possible segments that a good B-7971 >> will. It is wrapped in bubble wrap sitting in an odds-and-ends box which is >> why I am thinking of parting with it. I am not using it. >> >> Robert >> >> >>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 6:36:35 AM UTC-4 Bill Notfaded wrote: >>> Jeffrey- >>> >>> Where there any big Borroughs or NL tubes vertical or round? >>> >>> Bill >>>> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 1:46:02 PM UTC-7 Jeffry P wrote: >>>> Hi Nick, >>>> >>>> I've been lurking in this group since its creation. Most of the >>>> discussion is a bit beyond me but interesting nonetheless. Some members >>>> were asking where the pictures were- I was referring to the pictures >>>> listed on the Facebook group. I have not posted any pictures anywhere. I'm >>>> about halfway through sorting tubes into bins, so that all alike types are >>>> together. Burroughs has the lead as far as variety with National right >>>> behind.Valvo and Amperex are well represented. This coming weekend I >>>> should be able to finish sorting. I'll post some pictures when the sorting >>>> is finished. Thank you to all who have sent encouraging words. I was >>>> concerned that some folks would be out of joint because I went in and got >>>> everything. If you were planning on going to Huntsville for nixies this >>>> weekend I apologize. There were some meters left that someone might be >>>> interested in. I'm referring to the photos on the Facebook page (Harpers >>>> Home Estate Sales). The collection came from Michael Seaton. He had a few >>>> posts here and his name was in his email address. >>>> >>>> Jeffry >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:30 PM Nicholas Stock <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi Jeffry, welcome to the group!!! >>>>> >>>>> As a long time Nixie fan, clock builder, collector etc, I applaud you for >>>>> keeping the treasure trove together. I noted a lot of highly sought after >>>>> goodies in the photos (including a rather excessive number of old Axiris >>>>> VU meters!). As a fellow nixie/neon nutcase and one of the moderators of >>>>> the group, let me know if there's anything I(we) can do to help you with >>>>> info, pricing etc....there are a lot of really knowledgeable and >>>>> thoughtful folks on this list and whilst a lot of us are probably agog at >>>>> the collection, deep-down we're happy that it is all in one place and >>>>> with someone who knows its value (not just monetarily). >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Nick >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:16 PM Audrey <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> You should give them to me :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:14 PM Jeffry Portell <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes he and I are the same age. I need to think about where all this >>>>>>> should go in the event of my demise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 3:27 PM Jeff Walton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Nice to hear that someone from the group was able to make the trip. >>>>>>>> You are fortunate to have your hands on such a treasure trove of >>>>>>>> antiquities! Looking forward to seeing photos of the collection. >>>>>>>> Eventually we all have collections that will change hands, some sooner >>>>>>>> than others... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>>>>>> From: Jeffry P <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 8/23/21 11:15 AM (GMT-06:00) >>>>>>>> To: neonixie-l <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Subject: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good morning to all! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I joined the original Neonixie-l group on Yahoo many years ago when >>>>>>>> Raymond W. was moderator. I had the privilege of paying him $100+ for >>>>>>>> a ‘Four Letter Word’ kit that never arrived. Raymond was good at >>>>>>>> making excuses ( waiting for parts, illness, earthquakes, no reliable >>>>>>>> help, etc.) and always promised that no matter what I would get a kit. >>>>>>>> Meanwhile, the time had run out for a refund. The (4) B7971’s were >>>>>>>> gathering dust while waiting to broadcast their message as tame, >>>>>>>> colorful, or indecent per your preferences! I think there was >>>>>>>> something in there about nuns blushing as well. I still get a twinge >>>>>>>> while checking my postal mailbox and recalling the 2 years of looking >>>>>>>> for a package from ‘Indonesia’. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> R.W took a lot of money from people and didn’t deliver. I believe >>>>>>>> many of his unfortunate customers were, and still are, responsible for >>>>>>>> the renewed interest in using nixie tubes. Kits were being designed by >>>>>>>> hobbyists and enterprising individuals found and marketed tubes that >>>>>>>> could be used to build clocks. I had bought the (4)B7971’s for my FLW >>>>>>>> on eBay in anticipation of the kit arrival. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love clocks-flip clocks, nixies, and electronic types especially. >>>>>>>> Online auctions made access to these clocks easy and somewhat >>>>>>>> affordable. I ordered another kit from a seller on eBay named Pete >>>>>>>> Hand. I actually received the kit, built it, and I was now the proud >>>>>>>> owner of a Four -Letter- Word. I’ve owned quite a few four letter >>>>>>>> words in my lifetime but once they fall out of your mouth….. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I bought and built another kit and was hooked on nixies. I watched >>>>>>>> prices rise for certain tubes and bought them and others as my budget >>>>>>>> would allow. The intention was to make clocks with them when I >>>>>>>> retired. I bought a few kits that featured newer display types and >>>>>>>> learned about SMD’s through trial and error. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This past weekend I made a trip to Madison Alabama which is a suburb >>>>>>>> of Huntsville AL. NASA and it’s supporting industries (Northrup, >>>>>>>> Intergraph, Boeing, Dynetics, etc.) put Huntsville on the map as a hub >>>>>>>> for technical and engineering products and services. The area has >>>>>>>> computer scientists, mechanical and electronic engineers, Material >>>>>>>> Science PHD’s, and thousands of really smart people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please bear with me as I feel there is a story to be told here. A >>>>>>>> computer scientist, whom I’ll call RS had a more than passing interest >>>>>>>> in Nixes. Unfortunately he passed away suddenly while in his prime >>>>>>>> years. I believe this person was personally known to members of the >>>>>>>> Nixie community. I am in possession of RS’s extensive collection of >>>>>>>> Nixie tubes, built clocks, and collector's pieces. Technical >>>>>>>> documentation and assembly manuals were kept in file folders. >>>>>>>> Included is some correspondence related to RS’s support of the art of >>>>>>>> manufacturing Nixie tubes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I arrived home yesterday after having flown to Huntsville, renting a >>>>>>>> truck, packing the collection, and driving 12 hours. Saturday and >>>>>>>> Sunday were one long day for me and I need to rest a bit and recover. >>>>>>>> If RS’s brother reads this I want to say it was great to meet you and >>>>>>>> thank you for giving (no it was purchased) myself and the world this >>>>>>>> fine collection to enjoy. I plan on keeping this collection complete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now for the good part……… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe RS was friends with engineers in the aerospace industry as a >>>>>>>> lot of the tubes are NOS in original boxes with identical date codes. >>>>>>>> These would have been backup replacements or engineering samples used >>>>>>>> by NASA . Most of these were American manufactured and include the >>>>>>>> full range of tubes from Burroughs, RCA, Amperex, National, AEG, etc. >>>>>>>> The items range from 6 to 20 pieces of each model. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There_is_a_ mouth_full_of_hen’s_teeth_here! That last sentence is a >>>>>>>> matter of fact. I’ve seen the pages of Claus-Dieter, Cathode Corner, >>>>>>>> and Sphere and a few others. Are these pages of tubes they actually >>>>>>>> own or just reference info and sale availability? Does anyone have a >>>>>>>> complete list of every type of nixie tube that was manufactured? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RS’s collection contains some Russian and Chinese tubes but I think >>>>>>>> they were extras for the clocks he built. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most of the shipping boxes for all the tubes he had were emptied in >>>>>>>> preparation for the sale. I took me 5 hours to pack up everything and >>>>>>>> RS’s brother and Estate agent were very gracious in the time they >>>>>>>> allowed me to pack everything. I didn’t have time to wrap each tube >>>>>>>> that didn’t have a box and I have a 3’x3’x4’ box of loose tubes. The >>>>>>>> egg cartons you see in the photos were literally stacked atop each >>>>>>>> other in a box and transported. So far I’ve found 1 broken tube and my >>>>>>>> heart sank -it was an E1T. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message has become way too long but I want everyone to know these >>>>>>>> tubes weren’t scattered to the wind or thrown out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I work and am in the midst of remodeling my home so my time is spread >>>>>>>> out thinly. I plan on inventorying the collection, trading with other >>>>>>>> collectors to mutually enhance our collections, and putting together a >>>>>>>> website that features the collection. Any surplus that I have will be >>>>>>>> auctioned on eBay. I have no idea what those tubes will be but members >>>>>>>> here will be alerted. It may be 3-6 months before I can unpack >>>>>>>> everything. I’m not a tube dealer so getting things listed and sold is >>>>>>>> not my priority. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please don’t message me asking to buy something you saw in the pics. >>>>>>>> Until I know what all is there nothing is for sale. Don’t ask what I >>>>>>>> paid for the collection- If you do I will block you from messaging me. >>>>>>>> Don’t be rude money was not the issue here it was about keeping this >>>>>>>> collection intact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you know RS personally I would love to hear what your interactions >>>>>>>> were. Many of the shipping boxes were from familiar names and were >>>>>>>> from all over the world. The number of tubes is overwhelming and I >>>>>>>> feel very fortunate to own them. There are tubes that I thought I >>>>>>>> would never in my lifetime be able to see or touch. I’m an old school >>>>>>>> guy and I don’t take pictures of many things. I may start to Instagram >>>>>>>> or something to share my finds but if I I get bombarded with offers to >>>>>>>> buy etc I’ll have to stop. I don’t keyboard very fast (cause I didn’t >>>>>>>> take typing in high school- I thought I’d have a secretary) so >>>>>>>> answering emails and messages takes me awhile. Took me 2 plus hours to >>>>>>>> get this out from the computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have a good afternoon, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeffry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c88048ff-4540-4ecb-9595-0c8b8824c60en%40googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>>>>> Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/1ZLwWJYUnmk/unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/61240494.1c69fb81.3c3cb.d144%40mx.google.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAF5gi3P4fcxK0Fz7njA1CjzfLpYhE_nPF7ApQXv%2Bv85tq8CsXw%40mail.gmail.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAPDJQ6BUeRPjd24tCTiT4WJHDxxm8j21CYuTWSW83RTtTB2cqA%40mail.gmail.com. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/1ZLwWJYUnmk/unsubscribe. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRHJ%3D74qPYVBrspvGg%2BH3xw595hPgmJu_M07TXz1zTnuxGg%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "neonixie-l" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b52a9d0d-3bdd-44ea-a93b-c81979a8c143n%40googlegroups.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F9D102E2-E773-438A-971B-FAD75F99E0DD%40yahoo.co.uk. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/612955fa.1c69fb81.a7c2f.3876%40mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. 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