I went though a series of digital scopes before I found one I was really
happy with. All were second-hand.

I had a 16500A, later upgraded to a 16500B. I didn't ever get the LAN
option. On the positive side, it's a proper logic analyser with loads of
inputs, clock and state triggering :  the mixed-signal scopes don't usually
have enough inputs to deal with an Z80/68000 era bus. But the scope part is
400MS/s, 6 bits and a bit clunky. The whole thing is huge and noisy.

I bought a cheap Owon with a TN screen. It was awful. Got rid of it.
I bought an early Rigol. Didn't like the very small screen. Sold it.

I bought an Agilent DSO7014A then upgraded it for free to MSO7054A spec
(mixed signal, 500MHz, 4GS/s). It's great and even though it's obsolete now
I will be using it for a long time. The 5000 and 6000 series are similar
(see reviews by Mike's Electric Stuff) and can have a VGA screen attached
for a larger display.

I also have a Hantek similar to the one Richard describes ut an MSO. It's
not in the class of the Agilent as you might expect at 1/10 the price, and
the digital inputs in particular are poor (no trigger) but it's useful as a
portable. My feeling is that of the chinese scopes, Siglent and Rigol are
the best of the bunch but I'm going mostly on hearsay - the one I owned is
not representative of current models.

I think it's worth making cheap mistakes  to learn what you want, and worth
spending a lot more if you use a scope every day as I do. And it took me 6
months to properly shift to using the Agilent from an analog Tek so do be
patient and don't assume it will be instantly familiar if you have a long
history with analog scopes.

The earliest ones in this list really just added one-off waveform capture.
But the Agilent tries hard to be 'as good' as an analog scope along with
all the digital bells and whistles. It's not an easy thing to do but
there's a reason the frontrunners eventually stopped making analog scopes
at all. However, the early ones don't match up so although I didn't buy
new, I did learn what would be disappointing and used only as an
alternative.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 1:39 PM Richard Scales <rich...@scalesweb.co.uk>
wrote:

> At the risk of being thrown out of the group - for all fixing and related
> activities I got a £140 dual channel 'Hantek' scope from Aliexpress and it
> has been rock solid for the 5 years I've had it.
>
> The current equivalent would be something like this:
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001845215723.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.89.79a739d44I0AEE&algo_pvid=8e4801c6-632d-48d6-946b-80ea3ee2baae&aem_p4p_detail=202304210536336849592695710280000384012&algo_exp_id=8e4801c6-632d-48d6-946b-80ea3ee2baae-44&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21GBP%21287.48%21155.23%21%21%21%21%21%402145279016820805933988046d0715%2112000017827964326%21sea%21UK%21720874442&curPageLogUid=0ARjNYpxmHuE&ad_pvid=202304210536336849592695710280000384012_9&ad_pvid=202304210536336849592695710280000384012_9
>
> There have been occasions when I wished for just one more channel but I
> got over it!
>
>
>  - Richard
>
>
> On Friday, 21 April 2023 at 13:18:56 UTC+1 Joe Croft wrote:
>
>> My Siglent 1202X-E is a real nice scope for a digital scope. 200Mhz, 2
>> channels.
>>
>> -joe
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:44 PM martin martin <mcve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My Tek 2236 is nearly 30 moons old and no longer stays on for more than
>>> a few minutes.  I am sure it's fixable, but on the other hand maybe time
>>> for a new digital!
>>>
>>> What do you guys suggest for general use and of course clock fixing?
>>>
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