Awesome find - very well done.

I am seriously envious!

I look forward to seeing how you get on.

- Richard


On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 at 06:07:17 UTC Magnedyne wrote:

> This sign was most likely built in the former Telefunken Röhrenfarbrik in 
> Ulm, Germany. I picked it up closeby as well. Luckily I live close to Ulm 
> because I wouldn’t have risked shipping such a delicate sign.
>
> Magnedyne schrieb am Dienstag, 14. November 2023 um 07:02:12 UTC+1:
>
>> You might just be correct. According to the seller this sign sat in a 
>> damp basement for the better part of fourth years which could easily result 
>> in corrosion on some of the sockets. Furthermore taking a look at the 
>> pictures in the listing it seems that whilst these three tubes were 
>> noticable, they weren't quite as bad as they are now. Fingers crossed it's 
>> just a bad connection.[image: Screenshot_20231114-065850.png]
>>
>> Audrey schrieb am Montag, 13. November 2023 um 22:45:53 UTC+1:
>>
>>> Bad connection somewhere possibly, wouldnt surprise me if the tubes are 
>>> socketed
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 4:39 PM Nicholas Stock <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, it moves? Probably a leaky tube then I'm afraid.. unless anybody 
>>>> else on the list has ideas?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Magnedyne <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore I should mention that the partial glow does not affect 
>>>>> only specific elements of the tube but any element inside the tube. 
>>>>> Can this be caused by deposits?
>>>>> Nicholas Stock schrieb am Montag, 13. November 2023 um 21:56:10 UTC+1:
>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT A FIND!!! OMG. I didn't even know there were smaller versions of 
>>>>>> the ZM1350 (shame on me!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tubes with the partially lit segments can probably be revived 
>>>>>> with a little extra current... just be careful not to burn them during 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> healing process (if it works..).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to the group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:07 PM Magnedyne <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, this serves as my introduction and and as a thread about a 
>>>>>>> beautiful sign I just picked up.
>>>>>>> Firstly something about myself.
>>>>>>> I’m a 17 year old collector and (hobby) historian of vintage 
>>>>>>> computers, my interests are mainly minis, mainframes, early micros and 
>>>>>>> kit/diy computers. But I’ve got a few other different bits and bobs 
>>>>>>> throughout the history of technology as well.
>>>>>>> Now back to the reason I joined this group. 
>>>>>>> I came across an absolutely beautiful Telefunken advertising sign 
>>>>>>> for the, frankly underdocumented, Telefunken Varisymbol tubes. They 
>>>>>>> were 
>>>>>>> Telefunkens response to the Burroughs 7971 alphanumerical tubes. These 
>>>>>>> were 
>>>>>>> only sold for a very brief amount of time and exclusively in Europe. 
>>>>>>> Interestingly these are flat like panaplex tubes and the anode is 
>>>>>>> not a grid, but a coating on the inside of the tube. These are the 
>>>>>>> earliest 
>>>>>>> gas discharge tubes, well the ones I’m aware of anyhow, which used such 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> coating. 
>>>>>>> The sign is a handmade one off which was lugged around to fairs to 
>>>>>>> advertise the Varisymbol to potential Customers. It implements all 
>>>>>>> three 
>>>>>>> sizes of the Varisymbol ZM1350 ZM1360 & ZM1370. It can alternate 
>>>>>>> between 
>>>>>>> „TELEFUNKEN“ and „VARISYMBOL“ at four different speeds. Switching 
>>>>>>> between 
>>>>>>> the sign reading „TELEFUNKEN“  three times, then „VARISYMBOL“ three 
>>>>>>> times 
>>>>>>> and the sign reading „TELEFUNKEN VARISYMBOL TELEFUNKEN“/ „VARISYMBOL 
>>>>>>> TELEFUNKEN VARISYMBOL“  is possible as well. Unfortunately three tubes 
>>>>>>> don’t display quite properly. I’m hoping it’s just the electronics, I 
>>>>>>> haven’t had time for a detailed diagnosis yet. Even if it’s the tubes, 
>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>> seems to be the most common type at least, the ZM1350 which seems to 
>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>> popped up most often in the past.
>>>>>>> Any further info about the Varisymbol is greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Magnedyne
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0026.jpeg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0025.jpeg]
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0021.jpeg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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