Yes, tried everything I could think of. Moved the same teensy to another board and works fine, tried new teensy, tried to erase teensy eeprom, tried to reset teensy to factory (15 secs long press). Nothing. -------- Original message --------From: Dekatron42 <[email protected]> Date: 22/06/2024 23:35 (GMT+00:00) To: neonixie-l <[email protected]> Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Scope Clock - small display issue So what happens if you put this Teensy in the other working board, does the error follow the Teensy?If so, have you tried to reprogram the Teensy or even erase it to set it to its original setup condition?/MartinOn Saturday 22 June 2024 at 22:48:49 UTC+2 Max DN wrote:@Martin, if I try to bypass the DAC using POTs for NEG5 and POS5 it all seems fine (the dot goes across the whole X axis and Y axis).@gregebert, no Z-axis.I am probing X and Y just out of the DAC and not connected to anything else. I can see the image on the oscilloscope as a full round circle, but as I try to center it to what would be the center of the CRT then thr circle flatlines. It feels as though past a certain point on the vertical axis, the dots are just collapsing into the same line and cannot go past (on one end of the Y vertical axis, X axis is fine).Very odd as I have already used same code and same pcb for another scope clock. After 10 hours on it today, I'm going to let go until I have any other ideas. I have tried replacing the processor, the DAC (3 times), checked all resistors and bypass caps and triple checked all soldering points. Maybe it's time to bin this pcb, but I do like a challenge!Il giorno sabato 22 giugno 2024 alle 16:38:19 UTC+1 gregebert ha scritto:Is there a Z-axis ??? That would be my first suspect; if the trace is still visible, then the appropriate grid needs to be driven a bit more negative.If the CRT uses rapid movement for dark (technically dim) regions, and slower movement for bright regions, then my best guess is some kind of software tweak would be needed to get the beam to move faster, or off the phosphor-coated area (or both).On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 3:49:04 AM UTC-7 Dekatron42 wrote:Can you remove the processor and feed the amplifiers directly from a potentiometer connected to NEG5 and POS5 and see how the dot moves on the screen? You need one potentiometer for X & Y so that the dot will appear on screen. This way you will test out the amplifier chains without the DAC involved./MartinOn Saturday 22 June 2024 at 12:10:54 UTC+2 Max DN wrote:Martin, that's what I am thinking... however I don't think it's the amplifier chain as I get the same issue if I just display X and Y signals straight out of the DAC on the oscilloscope. That brings it down to a few components only: 2 potentiometers for centerting X and Y, their two bypass capacitors, the DAC and its 1 bypass capacitors, the +3.3V Linear regulator, the +5V supply to the DAC. I'm going to try and replace everything once more by one by one... Not the smartest way of doing it but let's see what it brings...Il giorno sabato 22 giugno 2024 alle 11:01:12 UTC+1 Dekatron42 ha scritto:Could it be the that any of the power lines sags as the signal tries to increase to the right (in the picture right where the line is) or that any of the resistors in the amplifier chain has an incorrect value?/MartinOn Saturday 22 June 2024 at 11:32:21 UTC+2 Max DN wrote:Tried to replace a few more parts, including potentiometers for Focus and Intensity, made no difference. So, back to basics: using an oscilloscope I see that the X and Y signals straight out of the DAC look exactly the same as in the picture I had attached. Maybe a faulty DAC? Tried to replace the DAC twice with new ones and made no difference. Looks like I'm hitting some sort of physical limits... More debugging to do...Il giorno venerdì 21 giugno 2024 alle 18:31:51 UTC+1 Max DN ha scritto:Hello,I'm building a scope clock, same board as another one I built before with no issues (after some help I got on this group, thank you!) and I'm getting a flat line on the display.I have tried replacing the CRT, the DAC, the Op Amps and the MPSW42 deflection amplifiers but made no difference. CRT is 3RP1A. Code and circuitry have been fully tested on another working board.I do recall having a similar issue before with a DH3/91 CRT and I seem to recall that I just needed to adjust the pot for Astigmatism that controls the voltage on A2. Schematics as in here: http://www.cathodecorner.com/sctv/sctv-schem-2.pngI'm a bit at a loss here, although I'm sure it's something simple that I'm missing.Pic attached.Any suggestions welcome,Max
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