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On Thursday, December 19, 2024 at 9:24:32 AM UTC-5 Jeff Walton wrote:

> A picture is worth 1,000 words…
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf 
> Of *Leroy Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2024 2:27 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: Russian IN-17 Nixies
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> Well Richard, I have completely resolved the issue with wire-ended 
> tubes.   My final solution to this issue
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> is to leave the wires full length.   Do not cut them!    Slip a piece of 
> small teflon tubing over each wire.
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> Then bend out the bottom end and solder to a dual inline (DIP) header.    
> That way, the tube with the attached header
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> can be plugged directly into a suitable DIP socket.    On the prototype 
> IN-17 soldering experiment, these insulators were cut
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> to exactly 1.03 inches in length.   Then a tiny soldering heatsink is 
> clipped onto the tube lead wire right at the bottom of the plastic
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> standoff that comes with the tube.    The 1.03 inch length of teflon 
> insulation tubing then leaves just enough lead sticking out the
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> bottom end to be soldered to the header pin forks.   The uninsulated gap 
> where the heatsink was, is small enough not to be any problem.
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> For the first one I used a 12-pin header.  Made this by cutting off a 
> 14-pin header.
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> That then allows the tube's lead wires to be soldered down and kept from 
> crossing.    One header pin gets skipped on the pins 7 through 12 side
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> so that the same geometry is kept as is on the tube base.     This works 
> out very well.    Did a similar treatment on the Chinese QS18 tubes.
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> Did same thing long years ago with a large batch of B-5750 and B-5853 
> tubes.     Those tubes had very short pins from being salvaged from old 
> equipment
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> so for those I wirewrapped on some longer lead wires then soldered those 
> to the header.    By doing this these wire-ended tubes can be easily
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> converted into tubes with good solid socket pins.   -Chuck
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> On Wednesday, December 18, 2024 at 11:52:08 PM UTC-5 Richard Scales wrote:
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> I would tend to agree - having made this super small clock for IN-17 and 
> now IN-2 - put the two side by side and there is no doubt as to which one 
> is the winner. The only 'issue' with the IN-17 variant is that the tubes 
> have to be soldered in to position.
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> I've been giving away a set of N.O.S. IN-17 with each IN-17 kit as I have 
> a few on hand!
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>  - Richard
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> On Wednesday, 18 December 2024 at 20:22:16 UTC Keith Moore wrote:
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> IN-17's are my favorite Russian nixie.  They have the cleanest, prettiest 
> glow of any of the smaller nixies, in my opinion.   I am partial to small 
> nixies, and these are my fave. 
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> On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 1:29:54 PM UTC-5 Leroy Jones wrote:
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> These are very tiny top view wire ended nixies.
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> Lit one up for the first time last night.   Very pleased to see that this
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> tube has a real 2 and a real 5!
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> Looks bright and clear.  Runs at around 1.2 mA at 170 volts using 30k 
> anode resistor.
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> I'd like to hear everyone's opinion and experience with the IN-17 tube.
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> Any ideas or comments?     Thanks.   -Chuck
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