Hello, To confirm. The order for the first total order for 100 tubes will 
be at $75 per tube (target price), subsequent orders for a total of 100 
tubes will be at $50 per tube (target price). At this time I have no 
information about individual pricing thereafter.
Warranty is proposed at 5 years.

... but it all hinges on whether or not a B8971 pin and segment compatible 
working tube can be produced - time will tell.

 - Richard


On Tuesday, 7 January 2025 at 01:16:40 UTC Christian Riise Wagner wrote:

> Just to be sure I understood this correctly, it's around $75 for the first 
> tube each member orders, and $50 for subsequent ones, so if I order 6 pcs, 
> it will be 75+5*50 = $325 + shipping, taxes etc.? Also, do the tubes come 
> with any warranty?
>
> lørdag den 4. januar 2025 kl. 06.26.14 UTC+1 skrev Jeff Walton:
>
>> I think that even Dalibor would tell you that he has not perfected the 
>> process.  He’s gotten better but keeps discovering little things that make 
>> a big difference in the seals, coatings, glass physics and composition, 
>> contamination issues and gas mixtures.  I personally think that there are 
>> things that were learned, “forgotten” and are being rediscovered about the 
>> process of making ultra-reliable tubes.  Without mass production and large 
>> demand for the product, the steps for improvement are small and the 
>> reliability is directly proven over time.
>>
>> The 7971 tubes are among the most reliable that I have observed in my own 
>> collection of stuff.  Remember that those robust tubes are already 50-60 
>> years old, so the seals have proven that there are reliable combinations of 
>> metal and glass just waiting to be rediscovered and mastered.   There are 
>> certainly multiple variations of the 7971 and it seems that all of the 
>> different constructions share a degree of reliability that none of the 
>> smaller Russian tubes ever duplicated.  Time will tell how well the tubes 
>> from Dalibor and DuDu Sa will stack up in terms of long reliability.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf 
>> Of *Terry Kennedy
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:25 PM
>> *To:* neonixie-l <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: B-87971 tubes
>>
>>  
>>
>> I'd be concerned about the tube lifetime. B-7971's are among the most 
>> robust Nixie tubes I've ever seen, with some hitting 60,000+ hours, just in 
>> the clocks I built. And they were used pulls from stock ticker systems 
>> (there are no real "New Old Stock" 7971's, no matter what anybody says.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Even Dalibor had a run of bad tubes (all replaced under warranty at no 
>> cost) after he had perfected his process.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 1:34:51 AM UTC-5 Richard Scales wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am in discussion with a tube manufacturer regarding the implementation 
>> of a B-8971 replacement tube.
>> It seems that the idea is fully achievable though I would need to order 
>> 100 units of the first batch in order to make it happen.
>> Naturally I am asking to see if anyone would be interested in committing 
>> to the purchase of a number of tubes to see if I can get an order for 100 
>> units together.
>> Please let me know if you might be interested, the target price for the 
>> first should be close to $75+whatever duties and taxes are applied. 
>> Thereafter the price could get much closer to $50+taxes etc.
>> Just let me know.
>> - Richard
>>
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