Thank you so much - that is amazingly helpful - the mist has cleared - so 
in some small way it's a bit like driving a decatron! I have some code 
which I am trying to follow but - not knowing how the thing actually worked 
- it was not totally clear to me - now I understand a little more - I'm 
more confident of achieving something - the display I want to use has 5 
phases and the code I am looking at suggests that is possible.
Thank you very much indeed.
 
- Richard


On Monday, 16 June 2025 at 06:15:35 UTC+1 Tristan wrote:

> These appear to based on the same glow transfer principle as the Burroughs 
> self-scan displays (almost like one fell out of the back of an SR71 that 
> happened to be passing over the USSR). So information of driving those 
> should be relevant the "auxiliary" anode/cathode is called "keep-alive". 
> The number of phases can vary but the underlying method should remain the 
> same where the "cathode groups" are sequentially pulled to ground to 
> transfer the glow along the display. 
>
> https://lampes-et-tubes.info/cd/Bar_Graph_Display_for_Instruments.pdf
>
> The key part is that only one segment is lit at a time and 
> persistence-of-vision makes is appear as a solid bar. Conceptually in terms 
> of program flow, in the Burroughs example you update the display 70 times 
> per second. That means you for a 100 segment display you reset the display 
> and advance the scanning cathode each ~143uS ((1/70)/100) once you've 
> advanced the scan to the number of bar segments that are intended to be lit 
> you turn off the anode until the next 14.3mS frame time. At the end of the 
> frame you reset the display (turn on the main anode and initiate the glow 
> with the reset cathode) and start scanning again. 
>
> Regards, Tristan
>
>
> On Monday, June 16, 2025 at 1:00:59 PM UTC+10 Richard Scales wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking at some 'panaplex' style bar graph displays with the 
>> objective of using them as a 'seconds' indicator.
>>
>> [image: Bar1.jpg]
>> Is there anyone in the group that give me a brief explanation as to 
>> exactly how these bargraph displays 'work'?
>>
>> [image: bar2.jpg]
>>
>> I have looked at a post with some details here: 
>> https://stromrichter.org/showthread.php?tid=3993&page=8
>>
>> There is a schematic and some code.
>>
>> It looks like there are 5 'scanning cathodes' , a reset cathode,  an 
>> auxiliary cathode, Anode and Auxiliary Anode connections.
>>
>> I have stared at the code for some time and am gaining an understanding 
>> of the required program flow but am seeking a more basic understanding of 
>> how the tubes work, how the 5 'scanning cathodes' need to be driven etc.
>>
>> All pointers gleefully received - thank you.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>

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