there are an awful lot of P1 CRTs in small sizes for sale on ebay, and 
laying around in guys workshops. I have at least 3 in the room I'm sitting 
in. I don't expect there will be a shortage of them any time soon. P4 tubes 
in small sizes? sure, they're hard to find.

On Wednesday, October 29, 2025 at 6:04:16 PM UTC-7 Instrument Resources of 
America wrote:

> Pilot Radio Company made a three inch black and white television in the 
> late 1940's early 1950's. It was the first television to break the $100.00 
> price tag, on the low side. It's CRT IIRC was a 3RP4 with P4 phosphor. 
> These sets are highly prized by collectors, including myself. I have one 
> currently under restoration, with a good CRT. Unfortunately many of these 
> sets do NOT have good CRT's. and the folks who have them have resorted to 
> using the 3RP1's  and this of course is adding to their shortage. Making 
> clocks with them is also adding to their shortage, along with the collector 
> crowd.
>
> Ira.
>
>
>
> On 10/29/2025 4:25 PM, Tom Katt wrote:
>
> They are hard to find for some reason lol.  I stumbled upon them by 
> accident even though I was searching for 3RP1's.   Mine just arrived today 
> - well packaged and factory sealed boxes.  I haven't hooked them up yet, 
> but they are obviously new and look nice so I do not expect any issues. 
>
> LOT OF 3 Oscilloscope Vacuum Tube 3RPI-A | eBay 
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/235029032080>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 29, 2025 at 12:11:58 AM UTC-4 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Tom, 
>>
>> Can you post a link to the eBay listing for the 3RP1A tubes?  I was not 
>> able to find it searching with the “I” or “1”, looking in both current and 
>> completed listings.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2025, at 6:15 AM, TomJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Forgot to mention - if anyone else is considering a crt clock project, 
>> brand new Chinese 3RP1A tubes are available from US sellers on eBay (3 for 
>> $85 shipped).  But they are listed with the letter "I" instead of the 
>> numeral "1" - the eBay search doesn't pick up on that, so they are easily 
>> overlooked.  I think these are the same ones that Sphere used to sell.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 6:07 AM TomJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 4:31 PM Mac Doktor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note that over at the GeigerCounters group talking about building 
>>>> negative HV power supplies can get you banned. A couple of people found 
>>>> that out the hard way after having been warned. The -900V supplies in 
>>>> Geiger counters are grandfathered in, of course, and the currents are very 
>>>> low.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Certainly, the voltages involved are no joke and can be lethal.  CRT 
>>> voltages typically are very low current as well, but I suspect still very 
>>> dangerous.  Though it seems a bit 
>>> nanny-state' to ban legitimate scientific discussions - you can just as 
>>> easily discover mortality working on your car or a home appliance.
>>>
>>> In any event, I also received a very informative email from the 
>>> gentleman at Sgitheach...  My understanding is that the crt tube doesn't 
>>> really care - it comes down how you want to design your circuit.  Having 
>>> the high potential at the cathode makes the deflection circuit easier to 
>>> implement because the voltages are lower.  BUT, if you desire to 
>>> incorporate some kind of intensity modulation or Z axis, you now have to 
>>> manage that end with high voltages.  The end result from a performance 
>>> perspective will be the same.  
>>>
>>> Thanks for the insight!
>>>
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