On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 13:22, Renaud Deraison wrote:

> >     In any case, the policy you call poor and/or stupid is the same for 
> > Debian, Mandrake or SuSE. Debian has slower release cycles, that's
> > all.
> 
> In a world where Joe Random has a T1-like internet access at his home
> for $40 bucks per month, I really fail to understand the point of
> "distributions" vs. "base system with ports".

(Disclamer: I've been one of the Debian developpers since 1996, so I
might be biased :-)

- "Distributions":
 If all my machines are running Debian 4.0 or RedHat 12.0, I know this
implies all of them are running Apache 1.3.26 and Nessus x.y.z.
- "Base system with ports":
 All my machines are running XyzBSD 4.0, but depending on when I
installed a port on each machine, I may end up with a different version
of Apache/Nessus/Whatever on each machine.

For many people, indeed (including Joe Random and his $40 T1 at home),
this is definatly not an issue.
On the other hand sysadmins having hundreds of boxes tend to prefer the
1st solution. (For most servers, a 2 year old system + security fixes is
very fine).


> > It's also a volunteer-based distribution.
> >     I would also like to see the kind of support a guy running Nessus 
> >     from the ports system in FreeBSD or installing it on RedHat would get from 
> > either one (I suspect close to 0, i.e. you're on your own).
> 
> There are FreeBSD and RedHat user communities. RedHat has a larger
> install base than Debian, and if you want support for Nessus, you should
> ask it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Anyway, we're talking about religious issues, so I suggest we close the
> thread (I'll even let you conclude it if you want)
> 
> 
>                               -- Renaud

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