I understand. What about writing it into the plugin to dump those extra
packets in so that it can be detected for sure?  Is it common practice
to have SNMP open on routers? 


John Omernik, MCP
Network Consultant
Wipfli Ullrich Bertelson LLP
(715) 843-7475

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From: John Lampe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Omernik, John; Renaud Deraison; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [BULK] - Re: Cisco IPv4 DOS


----- Original Message -----
From: "Omernik, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Lampe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Renaud Deraison"
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: Cisco IPv4 DOS


>So the idea is that this plugin will block it, but it may fail to
detect
>that it blocked it.

The plugin will eventually block the router, but it will probably not
occur
at the same time that you are scanning

>Is this a shortcoming in the plugin, or in the
>framework for the where the plugin is written?

Neither.

>Or, is this by design?

It's not by design, either.  The Cisco bug isn't an immediate, reactive
bug.
Instead, as packets pile up in the queue, the router *eventually* dies.
So,
I could send a series of malicious, TTL-expiring packets to a router
interface, but the router will not go down until the next X amount of
packets pile up in the queue after my packets....

John W. Lampe
https://f00dikator.aceryder.com/



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