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Ron Gula wrote:
> Hi Randal,
> 
> Tenable's focus right now for Nessus 3 is to produce both Windows
> ad OS X distributions for Nessus 3. We may add Gentoo, but the
> demand right now is from armies of consultants (most who don't
> pay for anything from Tenable BTW) armed with OS X laptops and
> seven-day old vulnerability checks.

I don't use Nessus for companies I work with (because I do mostly
app-based and OS host-based work). However, if they wanted me to, I
would pass the cost to them to support the project, if not only for the
most recent plugins/rules (like Snort does). Why close the source and
create a product to appease those who use it freely to make money? If
anything, you should focus on the product binary that is primarily used
by paying customers, whatever that may be (which I believe was the
original focus). And I hope that isn't Red Hat (rpm... ick puh)!! :-)

> I'm sorry you feel chained to Nessus at this point. Pretty much
> the same folks who started Nessus and have been supporting it
> over the years are with Tenable. We've added a lot of new users
> to Nessus and I feel really great about that.

I don't feel chained to Nessus, as I only use it for scanning my own
systems. I feel forced to use a particular OS that I don't like, to use
a product that I do! And you should be proud of the user base, you folks
have done an excellent job over the years.

> Even though there have been some forks of Nessus 2, Tenable is
> still maintaining the original Nessus 2 code base. It should
> compile fine for Gentoo and has also been updated since the
> Nessus 3 release.

That is what I currently use. Just wanted to check out the new stuff.

> I'd rather not discuss the merits of the decision to close
> source the Nessus 3 engine here as it has been discussed at length
> already. I could not do justice to the volume of posts on various
> blogs, slashdot and many news articles.

I can understand that. I just wanted to check the pulse of Nessus.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

Randy


> At 04:52 PM 3/5/2006, Randal T. Rioux wrote:
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>> I went to try the (relatively) new version 3 today. After filling out
>> the form, I was given a few platforms for the binary to choose from.
>> Turns out Nessus 3 only works on the horrible Red Hat (-esque) Linux
>> distributions (or FreeBSD). I've always used Gentoo and OpenBSD. Gentoo
>> has a hard masked package for it, but it doesn't work yet. I'm sure I
>> could hack away at the RPM, but that seems messy and unnecessary. How is
>> the schedule looking for supporting other Linux distributions?
>>
>> Are there any updates on <gulp> OpenVAS? Seems like that was a knee-jerk
>> reaction that is fading away. I hope not, because if it works as
>> planned, it will be our only hope to break the chains of locked-in
>> distribution support.
>>
>> Another pet peeve - if I want to download a binary again (or for another
>> OS) I need to complete the form each time. If you want to keep track of
>> downloads, try to make it a little easier (perhaps an account for
>> access)?
>>
>> Though I for the most part agree with the point that Nessus was being
>> used by some evil people for profit on other's labor, this may have been
>> a drastic step. How has the new system benefited Tenable? Was there ever
>> consideration to use another type of license that would allow the
>> release of source code, but not the use for profit by product
>> integration?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> - --
>> Randal T. Rioux | Procyon Labs
>> IT Security R&D and Consulting
>> Virtual: www.procyonlabs.com
>> Physical: DC / Baltimore
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