*hrStorageAllocationUnits* = 8192 for your system.
698726 * 8192 = 5723963392



Mohr James wrote:

Here's the output you requested:

swap -s:
total: 2653088k bytes allocated + 37416k reserved = 2690504k used, 2899264k 
available

UCD-SNMP-MIB::memTotalSwap.0 = INTEGER: 4003952
UCD-SNMP-MIB::memAvailSwap.0 = INTEGER: 1528520
UCD-SNMP-MIB::memMinimumSwap.0 = INTEGER: 16000
HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageDescr.3 = STRING: Swap Space
HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageAllocationUnits.3 = INTEGER: 8192 Bytes
HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.3 = INTEGER: 698726

So that I understand it, the Host-Resources MIB contains the incorrect values. 
So, if an NMS (like SolarWinds), it is going to get values that do not what is 
really on the system.

I am still confused as to why the numbers do not match. Assuming the values 
that swap -s are correct, then there is 2690504k +  2899264k  = 5592344k 
(5726560256 bytes) of swap. However, from the Host resources MIB,  698726 * 
8192 = 5723963392 bytes, which does match. They are close, so I could be 
tempted to simply say there is 5.7 Gb on this system

What units is memTotalSwap? I am now totally consfused as to where this value 
is coming from.

Regards,

Jim Mohr



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bruce Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005 21:35
An: Mohr James
Cc: [email protected]
Betreff: RE: UCD versus Host Resources Values for Swap


(***WARNING***RANT****)

AHA!!!  I've been looking for this for ages.

Could you run this again, report the figures you get from net-snmp and the output of swap -s?

I did it and got (snipped):

UCD-SNMP-MIB::memTotalSwap.0 = INTEGER: 2625968 UCD-SNMP-MIB::memAvailSwap.0 = INTEGER: 1926536 UCD-SNMP-MIB::memMinimumSwap.0 = INTEGER: 16000 HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageAllocationUnits.3 = INTEGER: 8192 Bytes HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.3 = INTEGER: 635687

total: 2019536k bytes allocated + 380192k reserved = 2399728k used, 2685320k available

DS> Those two values should probably match, yes.
DS> You don't say what architecture you are running on.

MJ> Oooops! Sorry! In this particular case, I am refering to a Solaris 7 machine.
DS>OK, checking the relevant code:

DSThe HostRes figure comes from:
       swapctl(SC_AINFO, &ainfo);
       return ainfo.ani_max;
                [host/hr_storage.c:sol_get_swapinfo()]

DSThe UCD figure comes from:
       swapctl(SC_LIST, s)
       return sum(s->swt_ent[].ste_pages);
                [ucd-snmp/memory_solaris2.c:getTotalSwap()]


DS>That's a gross over-simplification, of course, but it does show that DS>they're looking at somewhat different things. I'll now leave it to DS>the Solaris experts to interpret what these actually measure, and DS>which is correct.

If you look at the swapctl man page (at least for Solaris 8), the API mentions the SC_LIST.
The pseudocode for the UCD-SNMP-MIB code basically says:

-ask how many swap resources there are
-build a memory structure to contain the swap resource data -fill it with data -sum the amount of swap available from each swap entity -free up memory

From the API, this appears to be the Right Way of Doing Things and we're getting the right answer.

I should quibble and say we should be watching out for swap resources in the process of being deleted, but we are doing snapshots so this probably isn't the end of the world. This may be more intended to avoid trying to delete something twice.

The HOST-RESOURCES-MIB does something completely different. It attempts to use the SC_AINFO systems calls from /usr/include/sys/swap.h that are not documented in the sysctl API. It is documented in the /usr/include/vm/anon.h. That documentation points out that swap information is best recovered through kstat (NOT!) and appears to be more designed for use by the kernel than by us. Frankly, this code is barking up the wrong tree. It may have been relevant in older versions of the OS but apparently Solaris has moved on.

It appears that we should be using the code from UCD-SNMP-MIB in both places which is a Bad Thing, so I would be tempted to put it downstream somewhere like agent/mibgroup/kernel_sunos5.c but that includes a whole bunch of stuff we may not necessarily be interested in (eg. kstat).

This again begs the question of a Hardware Abstraction Layer where we would store the code for this kind of stuff and call it as needed by both MIBs.

What MAY be happening is that Solaris has had different ways of handling swap over the years. I'm in the process of building a multi-boot Solaris development server covering 2.6->11 (open solaris). It should be done by the end of the week. In the meantime I can wade through the documentation for the various OSen and see if there's any differences. I'm suspecting there's been some indiscrete patching going on and the documentation (for what it's worth) needs to catch up with reality.

I'll submit some patches once I figure out what to do.

Suggestions welcome.



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