This is another one of those..... 'cannot see server in Chooser' Q's. I've scanned the 1998 Netatalk-Admin archive & the 1999 for clues..... I've tried all the hints...... & I think I've narrowed it down to Appletalk broadcast packets not getting to or past my firewall. I'm running 7.6.1 on the 68030 based Mac..... I've not seen a 680n0 Chooser that will get me IP access to afsd. I have whole list of machine specs.... things I've done.... I can mail them in a follow-up.... I hoping this is the short cut... having done most of what usually recommended. The firewall is ipchains based. the networks are internal 192 C classes.... with rules allowing all packets across these nets.... when I do a tcpdump on the server I see the at-lap packets with some numbers.... though tcpdump on the corresponding interface on the firewall does not........ Another clue is that when I scout for PS printers... I see a aarp packet on the interface... followed by lots of at-lap packets.... but I do not see the aarp going out of the server... just the at-lap's.... I am using DLink 530tx cards...... via-rhine......version 1.0 on the server and the firewall.....Linux 2.2.10 kernels on both......... There is a version 1.02b on Donald Becker's site......should I inch up to this or is there another path I should be on? Regards, Mark Turner