Hi Paul thanks for the generous and interesting response. For me the whole
thing is very subjective. Net art and the community around it at the turn of
the century were crucial to me in that they enabled me to ?become? an artist - I
can still summon the huge excitement of realising that I could make work
that was kin to the ?new media art? I loved seeing in galleries ( and also that
drew to some extent on the tradition of ,in particular US , avant garde film
which I loved) but that I could do it at home as long as I was prepared to
put some effort in and then I could also get people worldwide to look at it
and discuss it... So the taxonomic thing is more a continuum for me ( and I
think you hint at this too). What seems to me utterly certain is that
something has been lost ,as it always is ,when the logic of capital asserts
itself. Finally Yes! - definitely do a diagram:) ! Best wishes Michael
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On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 5:27 pm, Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour
<netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
Very funny, Michael. I have faved the sketch on Flickr.
OTOH, "new media art" for me doesn't bring to mind Internet '99 but
rather the convergence of video art + interactive art in the mid 80s,
called "New Media Art" starting more or less in the early 90s.
As to where it went?I don't see so much a change in what people were
doing, the kind of art they were making, as a change in nomenclature
and context. Internet '99 is probably already called net.art, and its
passage through the $MONEY function is notorious. Muntadas' File Room
(1993) was staged as both a software-driven screen-based installation
(the "classic" new media art form) and as an data-driven website.
Arguably it marks a transition point from new media art to net.art;
however, people have gone right on making the kind of interactive
media installations that characterized much New Media Art?"interactive
media installation" itself being one term frequently applied in the
90s.
If the monetization of net.art marks its demise and the subsequent
arrival of Internet Art, New Aesthetic, Glitch, Glitter, Twee, etc.,
there's also a change in how work gets selected for exhibition in the
more visible institutions. Where you once had the sort of free-for-all
juried shows where artists and non-artists showed together and the
show was a a slice of the previous year's tech and aesthetic
developments, now you see thematic and curated shows that have become
a proving ground and career rung for ambitious (and mostly young)
curators. The term "new media art" is regarded as impossibly broad, so
more focused terms get used, to the point where the field fragments
into the descriptive tropes used in various exhibitions and thematic
shows, both in the "traditional" venues such as SIGGRAPH and ISEA and
in the mainstream museums and galleries, where terminology is also a
brand.
But I go on. I should try to make a diagram.
cheers,
-- Paul
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:04 PM Michael Szpakowski
<m...@michaelszpakowski.org> wrote:
Cheers Helen, Anne & Ruth delighted you like it - came
from the heart :) from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 9:22 pm, Helen Varley
Jamieson <he...@creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
yes, great michael! :D
On 03.10.2018 19:09, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
cheers Gretta!
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To: Michael Szpakowski <m...@michaelszpakowski.org>;
NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: [CAS] NEW MEDIA ART XYZ -
Where did new media art in the 1990s 'go'?
Spot on, Michael!
On 3 Oct 2018, at 5:15 pm, Michael Szpakowski
<m...@michaelszpakowski.org> wrote:
Here's my piece for this :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/43264122610/
anyone else? Garnet is cool with them being posted
elsewhere as well as being submitted...
cheers
m.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 10:49 PM
Subject: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: [CAS] NEW MEDIA ART XYZ
- Where did new media art in the 1990s 'go'?
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Subject: [CAS] NEW MEDIA ART XYZ - Where did new
media art in the 1990s 'go'?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:32:13 -0700
NEW MEDIA ART XYZ
CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS (DEC 31 / 2018 DEADLINE)
What happened to new media art in the 1990s? At one point, it seemed to circ
ulate in its own scene as a cohesive "thing" - but a few decades later, it's
unclear where new media art went and how it evolved. Did it die, institutio
nalize into its own festivals or events, move into the larger art world, get
swallowed up by social media platforms like YouTube or Instagram, or move i
nto experimental HCI, the maker movement, critical design, or something else
? What is the ???XYZ??? shape or timeline of how new media art has evolved over
the past
20 years?
"NEW MEDIA ART XYZ" is a collaborative publishing project that explores idea
s about where new media art in the 1990s 'went'. The project seeks submissio
ns from old and young new media artists, curators, festival organizers, writ
ers, electronic artists, media theorists, hackers, haters or others interest
ed in the topic of how new media has shifted, moved and evolved in the art c
ommunity over the past two decades. In particular, the project is looking fo
r submissions of single page A4 or 8.5" x 11" hand-drawn black-and-white dia
grams that illustrate your concepts of what happened to new media art since
the 1990s. The diagrams can be in portrait or landscape mode, can use any dr
awing medium - although pen or marker on white paper will likely reproduce b
est. Submissions must be hand-drawn (no computer aided design allowed), it m
ust not be purely a text-based piece of writing (a diagram is required), and
it must be received by December 31st 2018. Quick diagrams are welcomed: con
sider taking 5 minutes and drawing something on the nearest clean sheet of p
aper for your submission.
The drawings will be curated by Garnet Hertz, Canada Research Chair in Desig
n & Media Arts. Hertz will select approximately 50 to 100 drawings, write an
introduction, design the book, produce it as a physical publication, and re
lease it online for free six months later. The hardcopy version of "NEW MEDI
A ART XYZ" will be printed in a limited and numbered edition of 300 copies,
all of which will be given away for free by Hertz. Free copies will be given
to all accepted contributors, and after handmade copies and free online sou
rces are released, it may be reformatted into a commercially available book.
Snail-mailed contributions can be sent to: Garnet Hertz, Emily Carr Universi
ty of Art + Design, 520 East 1st Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5T 0H2, Canada. Sca
nned contributions should be at 300dpi or greater and emailed to garnethertz
@gmail.com. Submissions can also be directly uploaded at http://newmediaart.
xyz.
Hertz's past book projects have included 'Critical Making' (http://conceptla
b.com/criticalmaking/) and 'Disobedient Electronics: Protest' (http://disobe
dientelectronics.com). As experimental publishing projects, these books expl
ore alternate modes of disseminating knowledge. Approaches include making ac
ademic-oriented handmade bookworks, and giving artists more platforms to spe
ak about theory related to their work. NEW MEDIA ART XYZ has a diagram-only
policy for submissions in order to give more of a voice to artists that do n
ot usually express their ideas in writing ??? and it encourages writers to
draw. M
ore information on Hertz can be found at http://conceptlab.com/ and more inf
ormation on this project (and this call) can be found at http://newmediaart.
xyz/.
Consider contributing something by December 31st 2018, and in exchange we wi
ll work hard to do something interesting with it. Contact Hertz directly if
you have questions about this project, and please feel free to forward this
call for submissions to people that have something interesting to contribute
on the topic of new media art.
NEW MEDIA ART XYZ
c/o Garnet Hertz, Canada Research Chair in Design + Media Art
Emily Carr University of Art + Design
520 East 1st Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5T 0H2, Canada
garnethe...@gmail.com ??? http://newmediaart.xyz/
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Dr. Garnet Hertz
Canada Research Chair in Design and Media Arts
Emily Carr University of Art and Design
520 East 1st Avenue, Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 0H2
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