Hi Garrett,

I definitely agree about the technological bias in the study and practice of 
networks.  Humans always seem to be biased in favor of new technology for many 
reasons.

Cybernetics is interesting I think because it applies to nature too in some 
ways:  
https://www.quantamagazine.org/math-reveals-the-secrets-of-cells-feedback-circuitry-20190918/

Sometimes maybe we dwell a bit much on the flaws and failings of Artificial 
Intelligence, or overhype its value, each being to the detriment of the 
development and resilience of natural intelligence(s).  Olaf Sporns' Networks 
of the Brain (2011) is very interesting on these topics I think.  And humans 
are definitely not the only beings with brains!  🙂

William Janeway notes that we may be at an economic plateau-stage for the 
high-tech boom, so that venture capital is rather irrationally focused on 
digital-tech unicorns.  This is partly caused by an absence of basic R&D in 
green infrastructure.  He characterizes this situation as a network being out 
of sync.  Other "basic R&D" could well be missing or overlooked as well by our 
distracted gaze.

Can you provide more details about your thesis?

Thanks,

Max




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Garrett Lynch <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:08 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Our long global nightmare is over

I also enjoyed reading this. It's reassuring to hear echoed back the same ideas 
I've been working on and expressing for almost ten years now. My thesis was 
essentially about this just within the context of art "Networks [in art] are 
not about technology".

I share, however, Gretta's skepticism that we have all woken up or to extend 
that metaphor a little further that we have realised we are asleep but we have 
chosen to not wake up because the dream is preferable, more profitable, to 
reality. Generally, networks have become integral to systems of 
power/control/money and now, just like with climate change, there is a willful 
denial that they are or ever were more than technology by those that wield the 
technologies. Unlike many artists who turned away from Cybernetics in the 60s 
because of these issues we don't have this option we must work through these 
problems.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:30 PM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:52:57 +0000
From: Max Herman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

History is indeed a nightmare, but fortunately we have now all woken up!

Networks are not about technology.  They are about living things, first and 
foremost.  Plants, people, coral reefs, polar bears.  These are the real 
networks of value.

The purpose of the technology networks is to serve and support the 
life-networks, not to be ends in themselves and certainly not vice-versa.  
Life-networks are both individuals and groups.

Now that the nightmare is over we can focus on individual wellness via 
mindfulness, natural-intelligence-positive neuroplasticity, and a new birth of 
genius across all nations to save the planet and ourselves.

It's a great time to be a living intelligence!


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 09:55:23 +0200
From: Gretta Louw 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

I enjoyed reading this / hoping for this, though a big part of me is not buying 
the idea that we?ve woken up nor that the nightmare is over.

I meditate myself (mostly starting out as a coping mechanism that helped me 
deal with anxiety-insomnia), but also see a lot of truth in criticisms that the 
mindfulness obsession of today is very much about relocating angst about the 
state of the world and legitimate discontent with political, environmental, and 
social injustices to tensions going on within the mind of the individual. i.e. 
the system is not broken -> you?re broken. Here?s one article I dredged up on 
short notice but I think not the best one: 
https://theconversation.com/mcmindfulness-buddhism-as-sold-to-you-by-neoliberals-88338
 
<https://theconversation.com/mcmindfulness-buddhism-as-sold-to-you-by-neoliberals-88338>

I think often about a talk I happened to hear by a buddhist meditation teacher 
who explained that he first got into meditation - in the 60s - as a way of 
dealing with his fear of dying while he was protesting the Vietnam War. He went 
on to talk about how people often consider meditating an apolitical act, or 
wonder how ?just sitting? can affect change in the world. He said meditating is 
just sitting, but it matters *where* you sit.

Some morning thoughts?

take care all,
Gretta


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