Re: Max and Alan, Genius and 2020 'Genius' and the 'year 2020' are connected because they are meaningless definitions, aiding our navigation of pre-agreed structures and systems.
“That is genius!” Is a way ‘genius’ can be used that you might hate less, Alan. Meanwhile, here is a brief video, one of a series responding to being at home with nowhere to run, and how surreal it all is https://vimeo.com/401292914 On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 11:07, <netbehaviour-requ...@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: > Send NetBehaviour mailing list submissions to > netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > netbehaviour-requ...@lists.netbehaviour.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > netbehaviour-ow...@lists.netbehaviour.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NetBehaviour digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. a literature project (Max Herman) > 2. Re: a literature project (Alan Sondheim) > 3. Re: How is everyone (Johannes Birringer) > 4. holding (Alan Sondheim) > 5. Re: How is everyone (tac...@riseup.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:14:13 +0000 > From: Max Herman <maxnmher...@hotmail.com> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] a literature project > Message-ID: > < > dm5pr0102mb349590b3c29116e71d0bcda9a5...@dm5pr0102mb3495.prod.exchangelabs.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi all, > > While processing the current year's events, I've been reminded of an old > (and not very good) literature project I did long ago. > > This in turn has led to some thoughts about a potential new project. > Maybe this is one way I process literature and experience, to ask what is > going on now, then ask what from the past might be relevant, then ask what > future events might be the same, different, desirable, possible, etc. in an > ongoing cycle of comparison, review, and revision. > > The hypothetical new project doesn't fit the standard definition of a > literature project at first glance, but might have subtler relations to > some aspects of past literature (like say the haiku, koan, riddle, or folk > tale). > > I don't know at all if I will "do" the project, or want to, or if it even > can be done, or if it should be done; or, if it should be done, how, and by > whom; or if it is even possible for there to be a "done" and a "how" and > "by whom." But the hypothetical literature project I'm thinking of could > be named "what is genius 2020?" Its full textual extent could be three > questions: "What do you think about the concept of genius? What do you > think about the year 2020? How do you think the concept of genius and the > year 2020 are related?" > > In my life I've found often that asking too many questions, being too > questioning, can be a false path that leads me to misjudgments and bad > consequences. Sometimes being of a simple and non-questioning mind is very > important for me to retain balance, perspective, and context. Following > group conventions, the ebb and flow of human sentiment in which we all move > albeit in different places and ways, can also be beneficial in its own > right. I certainly don't know the answer to these dilemmas. > > I suppose that being too "answering" can also be a source of terrible > imbalance! > > I wonder now if it would be better to ask just one question rather than > three: "how do you think the concept of genius and the year 2020 are > connected?" (This seems more concise, but I find the somewhat magical > pattern of three more reassuring.) > > Perhaps we are all asking and answering this question in our own way, if > not in these exact terms, the best we can all the time anyway. What is > going on? What does it mean? How should I be? Perhaps it is best left as > a personal and internal question, a mystery in the ancient sense of > something to contemplate calmly, quietly, and slowly, a question generally > unspoken and unanswered but no less alive and well for being in that subtle > form. > > Very best regards, > > Max > > +++++ > > genius (n.) > late 14c., "tutelary or moral spirit" who guides and governs an individual > through life, from Latin genius "guardian deity or spirit which watches > over each person from birth; spirit, incarnation; wit, talent;" also > "prophetic skill; the male spirit of a gens," originally "generative power" > (or "inborn nature"), from PIE *gen(e)-yo-, from root *gene- "give birth, > beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal > groups. Sense of "characteristic disposition" of a person is from 1580s. > Meaning "person of natural intelligence or talent" and that of "exalted > natural mental ability" are first recorded 1640s. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20200327/64b55343/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:27:34 -0400 (EDT) > From: Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> > To: Max Herman via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] a literature project > Message-ID: <alpine.neb.2.21.2003271325020.5...@panix3.panix.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > personally, I hate the word 'genius.' it blocks, it's doxa, it rides > poorly, it eliminates, it effaces, it touches too much on issues of class, > if not race, gender, who does the defining, mensa, iq text biases, etc. > 2020 or not. the same for every year. too loaded, perhaps too > unintelligent itself, when we're slowly adapting to the splendid variety > of lie, AI and NI in the cosmos? > > best, Alan > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Max Herman via NetBehaviour wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > While processing the current year's events, I've been reminded of an old > > (and not very good) literature project I did long ago. > > > > This in turn has led to some thoughts about a potential new project. > Maybe > > this is one way I process literature and experience, to ask what is > going on > > now, then ask what from the past might be relevant, then ask what future > > events might be the same, different, desirable, possible, etc. in an > ongoing > > cycle of comparison, review, and revision. > > > > The hypothetical new project doesn't fit the standard definition of a > > literature project at first glance, but might have subtler relations to > some > > aspects of past literature (like say the haiku, koan, riddle, or folk > tale). > > > > I don't know at all if I will "do" the project, or want to, or if it even > > can be done, or if it should be done; or, if it should be done, how, and > by > > whom; or if it is even possible for there to be a "done" and a "how" and > "by > > whom." But the hypothetical literature project I'm thinking of could be > > named "what is genius 2020?" Its full textual extent could be three > > questions: "What do you think about the concept of genius? What do you > think > > about the year 2020? How do you think the concept of genius and the year > > 2020 are related?" > > > > In my life I've found often that asking too many questions, being too > > questioning, can be a false path that leads me to misjudgments and bad > > consequences. Sometimes being of a simple and non-questioning mind is > very > > important for me to retain balance, perspective, and context. Following > > group conventions, the ebb and flow of human sentiment in which we all > move > > albeit in different places and ways, can also be beneficial in its own > > right. I certainly don't know the answer to these dilemmas. > > > > I suppose that being too "answering" can also be a source of terrible > > imbalance! > > > > I wonder now if it would be better to ask just one question rather than > > three: "how do you think the concept of genius and the year 2020 are > > connected?" (This seems more concise, but I find the somewhat magical > > pattern of three more reassuring.) > > > > Perhaps we are all asking and answering this question in our own way, if > not > > in these exact terms, the best we can all the time anyway. What is going > on? > > What does it mean? How should I be? Perhaps it is best left as a personal > > and internal question, a mystery in the ancient sense of something to > > contemplate calmly, quietly, and slowly, a question generally unspoken > and > > unanswered but no less alive and well for being in that subtle form. > > > > Very best regards, > > > > Max > > > > +++++ > > > > genius (n.) > > late 14c., "tutelary or moral spirit" who guides and governs an > individual > > through life, from Latin genius "guardian deity or spirit which watches > over > > each person from birth; spirit, incarnation; wit, talent;" also > "prophetic > > skill; the male spirit of a gens," originally "generative power" (or > "inborn > > nature"), from PIE *gen(e)-yo-, from root *gene- "give birth, beget," > with > > derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups. > Sense > > of "characteristic disposition" of a person is from 1580s. Meaning > "person > > of natural intelligence or talent" and that of "exalted natural mental > > ability" are first recorded 1640s. > > > > > > > > > > > > web http://www.alansondheim.org/index.html cell 347-383-8552 > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/wx.txt > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:11:22 +0000 > From: Johannes Birringer <johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk> > To: "netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org" > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] How is everyone > Message-ID: > < > lnxp265mb1515c86f56e4d18ede8d3b54ac...@lnxp265mb1515.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > thanks all, for sharing thought and videos/images (Michael's garden, > shardcore's song, Alan's birds), I almost think > in times like these perhaps the less said the better? but then I would > have missed your comments on what you're working > on or how communities in Brazil resist their governments, or how you > circle your private garden. I really liked Danielle's post - thank you! > > >>..... Have formed an online communication with a small circle of old > friends most of whom live alone. This is leading to immediate creative use > of ZOOM, collaborative projects and sharing in new ways. This has become > important. Am concerned that people are too screen based though and not > taking advantage of this opportunity to experience themselves in quiet. No > planes passing.>> > > this moved me. > > I have nothing much to add, except wanting to share film I made of our > last dance, "mourning for a dead moon," i realized it ought to be short to > be palatable, > & one ought to see the invisible cryptogamicCoat, in the first scene, but > neither problem I was able to solve. > > https://youtu.be/I66-b21y8oE > > stay safe, warm regards > Johannes Birringer > dap-lab > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:20:51 -0400 (EDT) > From: Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] holding > Message-ID: <alpine.neb.2.21.2003272220410.13...@panix3.panix.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > holding > > http://www.alansondheim.org/P11.png > > i don't remember the image. it's a lure, it beckons me, that the > image itself, not the content, but its entrapment, its position in > a strip of images occurring forever it seems; by 'image' i don't > recall or mean what's evident elsewhere in a formal setting, in a > setting which bespeaks 'image,' in other words an advertisement for > what's to come, a token that could be anything. i'm sick of images, > sick of text; text provides an immersive experience of course that > pales for images; one might feel empathy for an immobilized subject > for example, but on the side of the subject, time has stopped, > nothing more occurs, there's nothing more to be said than the > collocation of pixels or silver grains or etching strokes what have > you. so there's that. and there's always hope that the image leads > to the text, embraces the text, opens the text, for the viewer, > which is almost never the case. i receive for example 'like' clicks > on facebook with a text, perhaps this text, that's being presented, > which may have a complexity requiring attention one way or another, > but the 'like' comes almost immediately, signaling the text has > been ignored, what remains is the image already fading, already > forgotten by the viewer. you see, if you've come this far, that i'm > exhausted, my writing is choppy, we drove yesterday for hours and > hours, all the way to omaha from aurora colorado, then worked and > talked so that i think we were going for 21 hours altogether, then > insufficient sleeping, now writing as if sleep has its say that > spreads slowly everywhere, the opposite of the image, the image > losing to the sleep, to the content of the sleep which is already > burrowing into this writing, and which has no content at all, > language replaced by murmuring mumbling. i'm always jealous i can't > get off the page <break from someone on the phone vis-a-vis issues > related to the virus> > > the phonecall was about our state rhode island closing its borders > to new york state with troopers on the highways stopping vehicles > and so forth which makes it difficult for us to return home and > we're working on that with an odd sense of fear being trapped > somewhere without facilities or ability to do anything at all so > the break released the page in a sense as anxiety chemicals rise in > me here in omaha and not know where to turn but wanting to help a > friend who is coming temporarily to the state which the state finds > problematic and i'm not sure what we're going to do but wondering > if the image has taken you in or has taken you this far because > it's most likely a prosaic image that doesn't add anything to the > conversation which is at best one-sided and nothing more than a > lure > > a lure, allure > > this is where what occurs on a critico-theoretical level exists, > lives, exits; this below. which may no longer connect with, concern > itself with, the image; it's as if - now you're here, i have you, > here is what i want to say - now i've got you in the prisonhouse of > language as well; the viral chains of language; the theoretical- > critical journal of the plague year; the well of buried victims; > the singing of ring around the rosie; the wall around the well; the > road on the way to the well; the wall to keep things in; the wall > to curtain things; to cauterize them; the wall of the image; the > defensive wall of the image; the postern; the leakage; the lake; > the postal wall; anything to keep you away; anything to confirm the > image did its duty; does its duty; already gone; "if you've read > this far" etc.; "if you haven't lost interest" and so forth; "if > you want this text to continue" u.s.w. - can't help you - no > replacement image - nothing like that - the name "Willoughby" comes > to mind - nothing else - the frame - maybe like this - > > | > |___________________________________________________ > > probably not: this text: at the bottom of the frame: you know where > that came from: don't you: dis:track:shun: > > +++ > ____________________________________________________ > | > | > > 19c19 > which is almost never the case. i receive for example 'like' clicks > --- > which is almost never the case. i receive for example 'like' clicks > 22c22 > but the 'like' comes almost immediately, signaling the text has > --- > but the 'like' comes almost immediately, signaling the text has > 57c57 > critical journal of the plague year; the well of buried victims; > --- > critical journal of the plague year; the well of buried victims; > > +++++ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 03:14:29 -0700 > From: tac...@riseup.net > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] How is everyone > Message-ID: <a098524ddb418b093cfa25c77cb7f...@riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > hi johanes > > the fight in brazil is now for health AND information > > Support public health workers and videomakers in the front line of > Covid-19 in Brazil. > > https://apoie.bombozila.com/projetos/nafiladosus > > Trailer https://vimeo.com/401500909 > > > Em 2020-03-27 19:11, Johannes Birringer escreveu: > > thanks all, for sharing thought and videos/images (Michael's garden, > > shardcore's song, Alan's birds), I almost think > > in times like these perhaps the less said the better? but then I > > would have missed your comments on what you're working > > on or how communities in Brazil resist their governments, or how you > > circle your private garden. I really liked Danielle's post - thank > > you! > > > >>>..... Have formed an online communication with a small circle of old > friends most of whom live alone. This is leading to immediate creative use > of ZOOM, collaborative projects and sharing in new ways. This has become > important. Am concerned that people are too screen based though and not > taking advantage of this opportunity to experience themselves in quiet. No > planes passing.>> > > > > this moved me. > > > > I have nothing much to add, except wanting to share film I made of our > > last dance, "mourning for a dead moon," i realized it ought to be > > short to be palatable, > > & one ought to see the invisible cryptogamicCoat, in the first scene, > > but neither problem I was able to solve. > > > > https://youtu.be/I66-b21y8oE > > > > stay safe, warm regards > > Johannes Birringer > > dap-lab > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 852, Issue 1 > ******************************************** >
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