Please be sure to make respectful contact with a tree and seek some impression of consent before moving in for any hug..

Thank you :-)


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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:30:46 +0000
From: Ruth Catlow <ruthcat...@gmail.com>
To: Danielle Imara <danielleim...@gmail.com>
Cc: Max Herman <maxnmher...@hotmail.com>,  NetBehaviour for networked
        distributed creativity <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
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ha ha!
I love the idea that we should use this moment in which  hugging is
generally "out of style" to start hugging trees.

I have been very drawn to indigenous perspectives.
Last year I also recently read Robin Wall Kimmerer's Braiding Sweetgrass
<https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780141991955?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=CjwKCAiAouD_BRBIEiwALhJH6GZ5gyqg2MYBiRmwWF4VSEANDvu-n8a0nrZlpcku-_F9NPc6UonD-BoCtA8QAvD_BwE>
which
braids "Western" botanical science with indigenous American epistomologies.
And then this astonishing All My Relations podcast
<https://www.allmyrelationspodcast.com/>created by 2 intersectional
feminist indigenous American women.
In both the book and the podcast I was initially drawn by the
chapters/episodes about language-loss and then stayed for the relational
lens on all aspects of life which resonates for me with DIWO approaches to
network culture.

I'm planning to join the tree-becoming event tomorrow. : )
Ruth

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:49 AM Danielle Imara <danielleim...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Re: Re: 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event (Ruth Catlow and Max
Herman)

Ruth, I am so excited by the article you shared. Such a great thought to
extend our kinship to AI. On one level, if we are imprinting the AI with
our own patterns then surely this can only lead to best outcomes in how
they develop; also for our own psyches to move on from seeing anyone or
anything as simply a tool or servant to our needs has to be an important
part of our evolution beyond hierarchical beliefs and structures. Thank you
so much for sharing. I have been looking at Robin Kimmerer, who from an
indigenous viewpoint also promotes kinship with all beings and natural
forms.

Matthew, loving the thought of your surreptitious tree-hugging. Perhaps we
should do it more openly so others feel safe to do so. Particularly now
that human hugging is so very much out of style. Am also reading Powers'
The Overstory, which is very worthwhile and inspiring.

See if you can attend Be-coming Tree tomorrow and let us know how it was
for you.

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 17:05, Max Herman <maxnmher...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ruth and Danielle,

I have to second the great value of trees of late.  I bought *the
Overstory* but haven't read it yet, though a friend circulated a recent
article about the real-life tree scientist Suzanne Simard who formed the
basis for one of the characters.

Daily walks among the cottonwoods along the Mississippi were a great help
in completing my book about the *Mona Lisa* in November.  Closer to home
there is a giant elm, a rarity since the beetle infestations of the 70's,
which I try to greet every day and when no one is watching, hug.  ?

Very best,

Max

PS -- thanks for link to article on indigenous concepts in AI, will
review.

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Thanks for sharing this Danielle,

And this prompts me to share Making Kin with the Machines, a wonderful
article by Jason Lewis, Noelani Arista, Archer Pechawis and Suzanne Kite.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326614247_Making_Kin_with_the_Machines

I first came across it republished as a chapter in the (very enjoyable) Atlas
of Anomalous AI <https://ignota.org/products/atlas-of-anomalous-ai> edited
by Ben Vickers & K Allado-McDowel.

It proposes that indigenous protocols and customs are an expression of
the best ontologies and epistemologies for healing the land and should
therefore be central to all AI developments.
Drawing on a range of indigenous systems of knowledge it argues
convincingly against the grave error of centering of human flourishing in
Joi Ito's Resisting Reduction Manifesto
<https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/resisting-reduction/release/17>.
They argue that because knowledge is born of relationship with the land,
human ethics demands disciplined and respectful making kin with all things
(who are also beings) on earth - aiming for long term balance, and openness
to the mystery of relating to multiple sentiences.

I think this struck me especially strongly as I have spent the winter
holidays taking solace in tramping through dank woodlands and a powerful
feeling of being welcomed by the society of trees that live there.

Warmly
Ruth

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:13 AM Danielle Imara via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

Be-coming Tree

On Saturday Jan 9th 31 live artists from across the globe will interact
with a chosen tree simultaneously for one hour. These durational artworks
will be accessed via a shared Zoom webinar. Audiences will see artists in
their landscapes in Africa, Asia, North and South America, and all over
Europe on the same screen. There will be a live soundscape created from
tree data via analogue synths playing throughout. Tickets (pay what you
can) include a donation to plant a rainforest tree.
I am humbled by the quality of artists taking part in the event!
This entanglement with nature and technology inspires reciprocity with
nature and a sense of global kinship with artists and their trees, while
contributing to reforestation. Tickets: *https://tinyurl.com/y8n3unu3*
<https://tinyurl.com/y8n3unu3>


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