Thank you for the great info and feedback Annie, Johannes, and Stefan!

I have noticed Warburg's name here and there in my reading about Leonardo, as I 
believe he wrote some influential essays (which I have ordered but not yet 
read).  In searching for resources about Dante's 700th year I coincidentally 
found the Warburg Institute's offerings, and noticed that their site also 
featured the online version of the Atlas (which I don't think I knew about 
previously).

From the little I've read, I think that the Bilderatlas may be unfinished and 
was meant to eventually include more panels as well as some explanatory texts 
(but I could be mistaken on this).  The method seems to have been for it all to 
blend together in some ways and not be reducible to normal presentations of 
images and texts.  This seems interesting in that while our books and archives 
can have any arrangement we want, our brains (and the world) have their own 
ways of integrating information which may or may not obey our archival designs. 
 Apparently the Warburg Library has a unique system of classification -- based 
not on periods or genres per se but on the concepts of Image, Word, 
Orientation, and Action -- and the Institute has an interesting "wheel" or knot 
design integrating these four words for their logo.

A major theme for Warburg and the Bilderatlas seems to have been how ancient 
texts and images percolated into medieval culture, causing a kind of chemical 
reaction that resulted in the Renaissance and began the modern age.  Or to use 
the metaphor of systems chemistry, there was a chemical ecosystem of the 
medieval and when ancient culture was dug up and re-encountered there were a 
vast range of system chemical developments set in motion.  Warburg's approach 
to understanding this set of processes seems to have had a "network" 
sensibility to it rather than a simply causal or sequential focus.

In a sense I find this relevant to the situations that Dante and Leonardo 
viewed themselves part of, and potentially to our own time of transition.

Dante created a text that literally walked ancient poetry, in the form of 
Virgil, through the terrain of medieval cosmology and philosophy with an 
imaginative translator Dante who captured it all in vernacular Italian for the 
widest possible public.  Leonardo seems a couple of cycles of iteration later 
than -- and somewhat offset from -- Dante, but was interested in many of the 
same fields and worked in a similar overall environment (Italy 200 years later) 
though using a much higher proportion of visual media (drawing and painting) 
than Dante (who focused on verbal images with high visual content).  The 
verbal/visual interrelation seems to have been relevant for Warburg too, though 
I need to learn more.  Both Dante and Leonardo wrote often about how word and 
image relate and interact; and both, it seems to me, assumed that later artists 
and writers would create images to accompany the poetry (in Dante's case) and 
words to accompany the images (as I would argue, in Leonardo's case).

I think the Bilderatlas will be a helpful case study for me to try to 
understand the visual/verbal interactions in Dante, Leonardo, and the possible 
interconnections between the two, in the context of the Keister and Marmor 
essays on allegory.  I believe that Panel 48 could be helpful for me to study, 
as it includes the strange Leonardo drawing Allegory with Dog and Eagle which 
I've been recently trying to both sort out and if possible relate to Dante.  
Warburg situates it with a range of images of Fortune, who has been central to 
my interpretation of the drawing so far (instigated by the fact that the only 
cases I could find of trees being carried by boats relate to Fortune).  The 
Bilderatlas also apparently contrasts Nike to Fortune which seems to me to 
resonate with the Leonardo drawing.  However, without some kind of text or 
guide I don't know if I could understand very many of the images -- though 
perhaps that is part of the intent?  If there is a panel that includes 
Leonardo's drawing of Woman Standing in a Landscape that would also be relevant 
to my hypotheses about Leonardo I think.

What this means for the world today I am not sure.  Perhaps since the Warburg 
Institute's wheel logo is derived from a diagram by St. Seville (?), and they 
claim that he was also the patron saint of the internet, the constellation 
aspect could have an influence on the evolution of sustainable, equitable, and 
restorative networks?  Yet Warburg did not have a tidy solution I don't think, 
and was very troubled by what the ominous destruction of WWI might portend 
(though he passed away in 1929).  Perhaps he meant to discover, invent, 
remember, or at least acknowledge an imaginative capability that had been lost 
or was endangered but was essential for humanity and the planet to develop and 
integrate the information necessary for long-term successful adaptation?

Perhaps such a capability could apply to our present dilemmas, with Warburg's 
example of the Renaissance not necessarily being a prescription about content 
(or period, genre, etc.) per se but just one contextualization among many 
possible to illustrate something which is not content- or period-specific.  In 
fact, if one follows the logic of bringing in and integrating it should 
arguably involve going beyond ancient, medieval, and renaissance Europe to all 
cultures including indigenous and non-Western.  Whether Warburg's methodology 
for integration, say of art and science, could be applied now and to other 
kinds of integration (such as economics and equality, technology and the 
environment, etc.) is perhaps a currently relevant question, as is whether it 
can be or is being replicated at all.

Again many thanks!

Max

https://www.rct.uk/collection/912496/an-allegory-with-a-dog-and-an-eagle

https://warburg.sas.ac.uk/published-volumes

https://readinginterrupted.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/370332b52b.jpg

https://warburg.libguides.com/classification

https://www.academia.edu/1050327/_Par_che_sia_mio_destino_The_Prophetic_Dream_in_Leonardo_and_in_Dante

https://www.academia.edu/3186326/_Leonardo_and_Allegory_Oxford_Art_Journal_35_2012_433_55

<https://www.rct.uk/collection/912496/an-allegory-with-a-dog-and-an-eagle>



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From: Johannes Birringer <johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 10:54 AM
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
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Cc: Max Herman <maxnmher...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Mnemosyne Atlas question

Hi Max

the Warburg ''Bilderatlas" (Mnemosyne), I remember, is a late work of this 
researcher/collector, and there are a number of panels now freshly reprinted 
(in an expanded book/catalogue) and also exhibited from the Mnemosyne Atlas. 
This last project of the German Jewish cultural scientist Aby M. Warburg 
(1866-1929), is an unfinished attempt to map the pathways that give art history 
and cosmography associated signifinces or, one might say, evoke constellations? 
. Warburg imagined as this visual, metaphoric encyclopedia, and I was 
fascinated that he just seemed to use the images, without text or 
explanations......

Bernd Scherer, who's from my home region in the Saarland and has been Intendant 
of Haus der Kulturen der Welt, talks wonderfully about the book in his video 
presentation: that video was produced on the occasion of the exhibition: "Aby 
Warburg: Bilderatlas Mnemosyne. The Original" curated by Roberto Ohrt and Axel 
Heil in cooperation with the Warburg Institute, Hais der Kulturen der Welt, 
Berlin (04.09.- 30.11.2020).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhEqGc7_few&feature=emb_logo


For a rich interpretive reading of the exhibit, I can recommend an article 
published in London Review of Books, Vol. 42 No. 21 ยท 5 November 2020
"At the HKW", by Chloe Aridjis
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n21/chloe-aridjis/at-the-hkw


best wishes
Johannes Birringer
DAP-Lab
London

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Max Herman via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
Sent: 24 March 2021 15:08
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Cc: Max Herman
Subject: [NetBehaviour] Mnemosyne Atlas question


Hi all,

Is anyone familiar with this rather unusual, and unfinished, work by Aby 
Warburg?  I have just started looking at his career and this work as part of 
researching his lectures about Leonardo.

https://warburg.sas.ac.uk/aby-warburgs-bilderatlas-mnemosyne-virtual-exhibition

The Warburg Institute is also doing a series of lectures online to commemorate 
Dante's 700th:

https://warburg.sas.ac.uk/whats-on/readings-dantes-divina-commedia

All best,

Max

PS -- Thursday March 25 is also International Dante Day.  ๐Ÿ™‚
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