Hi Max, Here is one of Leonardo Da Vinci’s famous quotes: *“Nature is the source of all true knowledge. She has her own logic, her own laws, she has no effect without cause nor invention without necessity.”*
Therefore our Natural Intelligence is and will always be much more creative and artistic than Artificial Intelligence. Graziano On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 20:57, Stephanie Strickland < stephanie.strickl...@gm.slc.edu> wrote: > *https://www.quantamagazine.org/same-or-different-ai-cant-tell-20210623/ > <https://www.quantamagazine.org/same-or-different-ai-cant-tell-20210623/>* > Stephanie > > Stephanie Strickland > > My new books are > > *Ringing the Changes <http://www.stephaniestrickland.com/ringing>* & * > How the Universe Is Made <http://www.stephaniestrickland.com/how>* > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:38 PM Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour < > netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: > >> There's an essay, "Intelligence Without Representation" that Brooks wrote >> in 1987, http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/representation.pdf, >> that offered what was then a new point of view on how to consider AI. >> >> // Paul >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 2:10 PM Paul Hertz <igno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Max, >>> >>> The robotics researcher Rodney Brooks back in the late 1980s argued the >>> AI based on the construction of a "knowledge base" was bound to fail. He >>> made the case that a robot adapting to an environment was far more likely >>> to achieve intelligence of the sort that humans demonstrate precisely >>> because it was embodied. Some of his ideas are presented in the movie Fast, >>> Cheap, and Out of Control, directed ISTR by Errol Morris. If you haven't >>> seen it yet, I can recommend it. >>> >>> -- Paul >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 1:38 PM Max Herman via NetBehaviour < >>> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I know virtually nothing about AI, beyond what the letters stand for, >>>> but noticed this new article in Quanta Magazine. Does it pertain at all? >>>> Interestingly it concludes that in order for AI to be human-like it will >>>> need to understand analogy, the basis of abstraction, which may require it >>>> to have a body! 🙂 >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.quantamagazine.org/melanie-mitchell-trains-ai-to-think-with-analogies-20210714/?mc_cid=362710ae88&mc_eid=df8a5187d9 >>>> >>>> I have been interested in the book *GEB *by Hofstadter for some time, >>>> and have been researching how it was referenced (specifically its Chapter >>>> IV "Consistency, Completeness, and Geometry" and its Introduction) by Italo >>>> Calvino in *Six Memos for the Next Millennium*, so Mitchell's >>>> connection to Hofstadter and *GEB *is interesting on a general level. >>>> >>>> Coincidentally I contacted her a year ago to ask about the Calvino >>>> connection but she replied she hadn't read any Calvino or the *Six >>>> Memos*. However, his titles for the six memos -- Lightness, >>>> Quickness, Exactitude, Visibility, Multiplicity, and Consistency -- might >>>> be exactly the kinds of "bodily" senses AI will need to have! >>>> >>>> All best, >>>> >>>> Max >>>> >>>> https://www.etymonline.com/word/analogy >>>> https://www.etymonline.com/word/analogue >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org >>>> https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> ----- |(*,+,#,=)(#,=,*,+)(=,#,+,*)(+,*,=,#)| --- >> http://paulhertz.net/ >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org >> https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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