amazing Max,

You are getting right in there

These links are interesting - thanks,

Botticelli’s drawings - wow

S
On 11 Aug 2021, at 18:04, Max Herman via NetBehaviour 
<netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> I like how these crafts are part of the sea and sky, intermixed.  Webs can 
> catch and tangle but sails are webs too!
> 
> The boat I'm most often reminded of these days is predictably that in 
> Leonardo's dog and eagle allegory:  
> 
> https://www.rct.uk/collection/912496/an-allegory-with-a-dog-and-an-eagle
> 
> Who is the dog?  Leonardo, a tiller-wielding Fortune as kybernetes?  What is 
> the tree and where is it going?  Who is the French-crowned eagle guiding the 
> compass and perched atop the world?  Why do the boat and eagle look so 
> similar to Botticelli's illustrations of Purgatorio 9 and 3?  
> 
> https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=cybernetics
> 
> It is widely accepted that Leonardo was referencing Botticelli's illustration 
> of Matelda, the vita activa, from Purgatorio 28 in his drawing Woman Standing 
> in a Landscape, changing the viewer's person from third to second.  Is he 
> using a language that blends word and image into both, and neither?  Is 
> Leonardo's boat escaping Purgatorio, arriving there as drawn by Botticelli, 
> or something totally unrelated?
> 
> <image.png>
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sandro_Botticelli%27s_illustrations_to_the_Divine_Comedy#/media/File:Botticelli,_Purgatorio_28.jpg
> 
> https://www.rct.uk/collection/912581/a-woman-in-a-landscape
> 
> 
> Dante's blocking is remarkably specific in Purgatorio 28-33, and the metaphor 
> of dance is immediately invoked:    
> 
> "As, when she turns, a woman, dancing, keeps
> her soles close to the ground and to each other
> and scarcely lets one foot precede the other,
> so did she turn"
> 
> Matelda and Dante face each other from opposite sides of Lethe, and while 
> conversing walk along their respective banks to Dante's right, so he sees her 
> on his left.  She sees him to her right, as in Leonardo's drawing.  When 
> Beatrice, the vita contemplativa, appears shortly thereafter, she is by the 
> left wheel of the chariot which approaches from Dante's right.  She turns to 
> her left, to face Dante across the river, as the ML turns to face the viewer. 
>  In the ML as with Woman Standing in a Landscape, the viewer is in the 
> seconda persona.  This creates something perhaps comparable to Cassie 
> Thornton's Hologram of three: Leonardo, the depicted viewer, and the live 
> viewer.
> 
> +++
> 
> The non sequitur "time crystal" reference I made previously was supposed to 
> have been explained by this inexplicable link, which I forgot to include in 
> the Notes.  I don't quite understand how you can discover a crystal in a 
> computer but apparently you can!
> 
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/first-time-crystal-built-using-googles-quantum-computer-20210730/
> 
> +++
> 
> Regarding that other way of crossing rivers, bridges, we know that Leonardo 
> was familiar with Islamic knot patterns from Venezia (akin to the Mona Lisa's 
> neckline embroidery) and with Islamic optical, astronomical, and anatomical 
> treatises.  Was he aware of the Bifrost, Brig o' Dread, Chinvat, or As-Sirat 
> bridges between worlds?  Possibly not, but more research would clarify.  We 
> do know he proposed to build a bridge -- the largest in the world had it been 
> built -- across the Bosphorus for Sultan Bayezid II in 1502, one year before 
> he started painting the Mona Lisa.  (The Brig o' Dread is a "wake" song, and 
> of course Finnegans Wake, which has absolutely no apostrophe, alludes to the 
> ship between worlds in the afterlife.)  
> 
> https://artsfile.ca/constantinople-is-building-bridges-with-leonardo-da-vinci/
> 
> The Milanese courtier Niccolo da Correggio gave Leonardo, before he returned 
> to Firenze to start work on the ML among other things, this advice with a 
> hint of Icarian caution:
> 
> “If Zeuxis, Lysippus, Pyrgoteles or Apelles
> Had to paint this lady on ‘paper’ [in carte],
> Having to gaze at each of her features
> And at the grace with which they are then infused,
> 
> Like when one looks at the sun or counts the stars,
> His eyes and his art would fail him,
> Because nature does not grant to the eye
> The powers in what nature herself excels.
> 
> So my dear LEONARDO, if you want
> To be true to your name, and conquer [vince] and surpass everyone,
> Cover her face and begin with her hair,
> 
> Because if you happen to see all her beauties at once
> You will be the portrait, not her, since
> They are not for the mortal eye, do trust me.”  
> 
> What Correggio meant is that no single Daedalus, poet or painter, should try 
> to portray all of Philosophy, that is, all science and all art, because the 
> project belongs to many (or even all) including past and future generations, 
> and for various other reasons.  Did Leonardo make his bridge too narrow, too 
> wide, or just right?  Have enough people been virtuous enough to get enough 
> across in time?  Did he paint in Esperienza not his own face, but yours and 
> mine, escaping the curse of both Narcissus and history?
> 
> Dante didn't see time as too much of a constraint beyond its changing things, 
> and being something not to waste.  But he wrote in Paradiso 1:
> 
> 70  Trasumanar significar per verba
> 71  non si poria; però l’essemplo basti
> 72  a cui esperïenza grazia serba.
> 
> My translation is that of an amateur or guesser and needs more research:
> 
> 70  Transhumanization’s signification in words
> 71  isn't possible; however example suffices
> 72  to whom experience grace provides.
> 
> And Dante does see Beatrice's face unveiled, in Purgatorio 31, there is no 
> question about that:
> 
> "O splendor of eternal living light,
> who’s ever grown so pale beneath Parnassus’
> shade or has drunk so deeply from its fountain,
> 
> that he’d not seem to have his mind confounded,
> trying to render you as you appeared
> where heaven’s harmony was your pale likeness—
> 
> your face, seen through the air, unveiled completely?"
> 
> 
> All best,
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> PS -- I finally found a relevant reference to Calvino's Six Memos, in a 2019 
> essay by Barbara Fanini titled "The Library of a 'Man Without Letters'" from 
> the Leonardo and His Books exhibition at the Museo Galileo in Florence that 
> same year.  She refers to the memos very tellingly as "Lezioni Americane" or 
> "American Lessons," not their published title Six Memos for the Next 
> Millennium.  They are, truly, literature lessons for the USA (as symbolized 
> by Melville's "Bartleby the Scrivener: A Story of Wall-Street") -- the new 
> Rome as it were, as Calvino was to have addressed it via the Norton Lectures 
> at Harvard in 1985.  Fanini mentions Leonardo's stated intention to become an 
> author or "autore," though he changed the spelling for some unknown reason to 
> "altore."  Could this have been a word-splice with "altro," meaning other, or 
> "alto," meaning high, that is to say a different kind of author, other and 
> above?  That would certainly suit Leonardo's aspiration to combine the visual 
> and the verbal in all arts and all sciences.  Fanini also quotes in full, to 
> start her essay, Leonardo's prominently labeled "Proemio" or foreword (to 
> what we can only wonder):  "I am fully aware that the fact of my not being a 
> lettered man may cause certain arrogant persons to think that they may with 
> reason censure me, alleging that I am a man without letters.  Foolish folk!  
> Do they not know that I may retort by saying, as did Marius to the Roman 
> patricians: 'They who themselves go adorned in the labour of others [italics 
> mine] will not permit me my own?' They will say that, because of my lack of 
> book learning, I cannot properly express what I desire to expound upon. Do 
> they know that my subjects are based on experience [italics mine] rather than 
> the words of others? And experience has been the mistress [maestra, as in 
> maestro] of those who wrote well. And so, as mistress, I will acknowledge her 
> and, in every case, I will give her as evidence."  Who would the ML be a 
> portrait of, if not Leonardo's own maestra?  And who better to illuminate 
> paths for every art and every science, in complex dynamic systems, throughout 
> long time durations as far forward as today?
> 
> PPS -- Another essay in the Leonardo and His Books catalog, "Leonardo and his 
> Books" by Carlo Vecce, argues persuasively: "Leonardo was no passive reader.  
> He subjected the texts with which he was confronted to a critical and 
> original revision, and manipulated them with great freedom, without being 
> intimidated by the illustrious names of the 'altori' [authors].  His 
> transcriptions were always rewritings, re-elaborations, syntheses, 
> 'translations.'  For Leonardo, textuality was something alive, in motion...." 
>  This of course aligns with how Leonardo conceptualized the earth, nature, 
> living organisms, human history, etc., and is moreover very modern or even 
> beyond modern in tune with the revolving turbulent patterns of ancient, 
> medieval, and modern all in a jumble.  
> 
> 
> 
> From: NetBehaviour <netbehaviour-boun...@lists.netbehaviour.org> on behalf of 
> Simon Mclennan via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 3:21 PM
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
> <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> Cc: Simon Mclennan <mclennanf...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] creativity net works! Doesn't it?
>  
> The finished drawing in this link - https://www.instagram.com/p/CSUwlAHI9qQ/
> 
> 
> - …this is the Turboprop
> 
> You have the turbo prop control
> 
> I have the paddle
> 
> Got it?
> 
> - Yeah - thinks so..
> 
> B scratched her chin and grimaced. She threw down the bits of honeycomb she 
> was nibbling and
> 
> regarded the contraption while gingerly poking and prodding at the tangled 
> mass of string, twigs,
> 
> horse hair and feathery lattices.
> 
> 
> - When I say go I’ll paddle furiously so the coracle starts to spin, and then 
> when we are spinning quite fast, you pull that rope,
> 
> and thus kick in with the turboprop.
> 
> 
> - Jeez, wish I stayed at home today - she muttered and to Leonardo - Fair dos 
> mate, just give me the signal..
> 
> 
> As the little coracle picked up speed in its dizzying twist, L shouted - Fire 
> - and B yanked
> 
> at the hemp rope.
> 
> - Freak this - B exclaimed as the engine fired up and started to spit out 
> bits of burning twig and 
> 
> coal, the lattice of small propellers began to fizz and tremble then buzzed 
> and settled into a very
> 
> loud hum.  Quickly the craft spun faster and careered across the lake, 
> dangerously missing a small barque 
> 
> and a brig tethered mid-water.
> 
> - Up-we-go shouted L as the boat lifted off and spiralled up and outwards, 
> defying laws of known physics.
> 
> Faster it span, then crackled and burst into a great plume of blue flame - 
> cool flames licked at the intrepid
> 
> pair, and then  -Flup! - The craft shot straight up accelerating several 
> gravities compressing the drivers into
> 
> the bottom of the basket work.
> 
> 
> Next thing they were out of the Earth’s atmosphere and free of gravity, and 
> luckily a bubble
> 
> seemed to have formed around the boat allowing easy breathing conditions.
> 
> 
> - Ok, now we are off to that bright dot over there..
> 
> 
> L pointed and moved the paddle a bit, so they headed roughly in this 
> direction.
> 
> 
> - Thither we go. May as well kick back init…
> 
> 
> And they zoomed off leaving a trail of tinkling bubbles behind... 
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