(might be useful re: Finsbury Park?) Disaggregate Flocking? https://youtu.be/R-J_KZI3dvY video Rather than swarming or flocking behavior, I'd like to call what I see in these images aggregate behavior or disaggregate behavior - what I mean is that the behavior is largely random that the gatherings are very crude and so very loosely bound that they fall apart constantly; they are "somewhat" incoherent. I wonder if instead of an overall flocking behavior algorithm algorithm one might consider or one might think about the possibilities of local geodesics that each bird follows that would have some relationship to avoidance behavior and to coagulation behavior but at the same time would not call this one way another into an overall shape such as you get with a murmuration or migration flocks . These things are much more loosely bound if they're bound at all with the goals in the images when you look at the time lapse material. When you look at the time lapse material you can see that they're much more individually moving then usually would be found In flocking behavior. If anything they're much more loosely bound by the external circumstances of the edges of the water body or bodies . But the movement seems to be slightly circular and that might be the result of flight patterns that are necessary to catch the air and move properly in relationship to the other birds to the neighbors but it might also be almost random and simply based on avoidive behavior and looking for geodesics not quite stop that. [that is, aggregative behavior within circumstances dictated by neighborhood features such as trees, pools, rivers.] Not looking for geodesics but as if they were following highly localized coordinates of some sort. I'm dictating this, which is another sort of flock behavior in the sense that the words are being put together with some kind of semantic continuity that the machine is interpreting. But at the same time there are withdrawals and things are much looser then that. In this sense the text itself is a kind of aggregate that veers off in one way or another. What was most amazing was when all of the all of the gulls took off simultaneously or roughly simultaneously not in a wave not even in a loose flock but from the bridge to the place where I was making the recording. More than that, there's a series of bridges and a farther bridge which is difficult to see in the video they also took off at the same time there must have been at least 1000 birds in the river between the two bridges and to further bridges that were even beyond those two. I'm fascinated by this and have spent a considerable amount of time trying to figure out what's going on. Ironically it's a lot easier, easier to figure out with the murmuration or sandhill cranes for example or migration in V shape patterns in general . But this seems different seems a different kind of behavior and the disorderliness may in fact be incredibly deep which would be really fascinating . Patsy disorderly oneness might in fact be incredibly deep . That is disorderliness might in fact be incredibly deep. It's the same with this as it is with the flight of these birds errors appearing everywhere in the text the text bearing off and then coming back just as the birds will land somewhat in the same places that they took off from somewhat in the same area at least but individually it becomes a real headache to try to I sect what's actually going on period to try to sense what's actually going on. ____ _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Disaggregate Flocking?
Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour Fri, 05 May 2023 08:12:18 -0700
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