In a sense the complexity has no "floor" - that is, no fundamental raster or connectivity - it's completely analog, oozing, and that's a different form of engagement. setup time for example may be minimal; if I want to work on an improvisation, I may well just pick up an instrument and begin. There's also a diffrent level of care - no updating, but continuous tuning, maintenance, etc., on the instrument as something close to "living" in its environment. We keep humidifiers going, for example, in the winter, since the wood breathes and may crack -

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 17:23:00 +0000
From: Mark Hancock <m...@memecortex.net>
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
    <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
Cc: Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com>
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

>>More than you asked for! 


Heh, not at all i find it fascinating. As someone who just dabbles* with
Ableton, field recordings and whatever Arduino device I can connect, it?s
really interesting to understand analog instruments and their heritage and
the complexity of playing them.

M

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 16:35, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
<netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:


      Hi Mark,

      Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel,
      and harder
      to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon
      and nylon -
      originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut
      which
      imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another
      composition
      altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a
      displacement
      sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater
      extent
      thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very
      old gambus
      here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very
      thin gut and
      I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.

      With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played
      with gut
      strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible
      for the
      dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the
      qin was
      'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel
      strings, even
      though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I
      don't
      have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I
      have a
      friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut
      strings
      on his reproduction medieval instruments.

      The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the
      strings
      bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say
      'always' for
      that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need
      metal
      strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with
      contact/
      vibration mics.

      My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The
      saz is very
      very easy on the fingers.

      The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used
      in local
      Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal
      strings.

      Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut
      strings
      (forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos
      always use
      metal strings for their percussive quality.

      The whole mandolin family, metal.

      More than you asked for! :-)

      Best, Alan

      On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:

      > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +0000
      > From: Mark Hancock <m...@memecortex.net>
      > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
      >     <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
      > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
      >     <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
      > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues
      >
      > Hey Alan,
      > That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between
      nylon and
      > steel? Apart from the twang?
      >
      > Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're
      finding some
      > respite, or solace from it all.
      >
      > Mark
      >
      > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
      > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
      >       Hi Mark,
      >
      > The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
      > stranger, more angular.
      > It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon
      string
      > banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
      > Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for
      Son
      > House through Al Wilson.
      > I got infected by free jazz.
      > Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of
      the worst
      > days.
      >
      > Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!
      >
      > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:15?AM Mark Hancock
      <m...@memecortex.net>
      > wrote:
      >       I love that guitar sound, Alan. I need more of that,
      >       please!
      >
      > Reminds me (in my limited cultural references) of the guitar
      on
      > Psychic TV?s A Pagan Day album.
      >
      >
      > Glad you?re on the mend, that was my favourite verse.
      >
      > Mark
      >
      >
      > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 04:48, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
      > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
      >
      >
      >       long covid blues
      >
      >       https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video
      >
      >       i got the long covid blues
      >       i got the long covid blues
      >       any way you choose
      >       i got those long long covid blues
      >
      >       wake up this morning in the middle of the night
      >       wake up this morning in the middle of the night
      >       looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright
      >
      >       wake up in midday nothing left to lose
      >       wake up in midday nothing left to lose
      >       got those long longer longest long covid blues
      >
      >       they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid
      >       hall
      >       doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
      >       i said maybe something else can't remember at all
      >       said maybe that was it maybe was a fall
      >
      >       i got the long covid blues
      >       i got the long covid blues
      >       any way you choose
      >       i got those long covid blues
      >
      >       --- >>>> *
      >
      >       * although i seem to be getting well and pulling
      >       through
      >       * anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue
      >
      >       _
      >
      >
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