HI marc and james,

I find it hard not to paint, though it is extremely difficult to be in a position of having something to say: and this is what I see in marc's drawings - that they have something to say. I have yet to find an equivalent in net art to the best in painting, but perhaps this is because I don't know where to look or I'm just not attuned to online stuff. Maybe this is because I have a strong belief in the tactile sensibility of the bodily functions. And this is not to say that I have not seen poetic expression on the net

I do work on flash for my website and find it fascinating and use the computer for video and working things out in painting. And it's very rewarding to be able to switch off the computer and work in the studio and then to close the door and come back to the computer as a sort of necessary balance of a working process: a kind of interweaving of skills.

ken


On Sep 21, 2006, at 13:14, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Marc,

I've not been ignoring your message, just taken me a while to come up
with a reply.  Had a quick look at your drawings, some are very
surrealist inspired by the looks of things, having similiarities to the
work of Francis Picabia.  I've drawn quite a few images like that of
human/object constructions, but not always had the guts to show them!
(online atleast, not exhibited any of my work at all.)

I did not see what you'd written as being quite into rant territory.

I might write something more later, after the weekend, about my
thoughts/questions on net[worked] art/creativity and where maybe
painting may come into it.

James.

On 19/9/2006, "info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi James,

Well - I think that we can enjoy creating in other mediums as well as
net art.

A while back, I created a web site of sketches consisting of work from
1986 to 1990...

even the web site now seems from another era.

tomorrow's insecurity
"sketch pads created by marc garrett during 86-90."

These images, notes, poems & rants are all from a 4 year period of my
life, 1986 to 1990. This was a crucial stage for learning. It comes from
a philosophical place & questions life, Art, Insanity, Security,
Institutions & many other things. They are from sketch books & note pads
that I have always carried around with me. On this site there are
numerous thoughts & images, questioning situations, events, personal &
political etc...

http://www.furtherfield.org/mgarrett/tomorrows_insecurities/index.htm

I wonder if anyone else on here has stuff that they can show (links to) before they explored net art, or related creativity? Hell, we could have
an online exhibition of web art by net artists before they suddenly
turned....

marc

Painting is hard
----------------

Painting is hard, that is, it don't make me a hard man just cos I paint.
It's difficult, especially when you're not as good as you think you
should be, to be an ARtist. Especially when you insist upon pursuing
some vision of a personal abstract visual language arising through
randomness, perhaps even the sub-con-shush. Especially when you spend
hours mixing up colours, getting all excited when you discover a
beautiful vibrant grey can be made by mixing a rather expensive cobalt
blue with a somewhat cheaper raw umbre, and the disappointment of it
hits you when you mix in the emulsion and find it's rather boring gray
after all.

Painting is hard when you've no idea of what to paint, but what the hell
has any of this to do with net art?

http://www.jwm-art.net/art/audio/painting_is_hard.mp3

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Painting _is Hard
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Painting is difficult I mean. It's tricky working it out, what like am I
going to paint next? When you've no idea and could be thought of as
stubburn, atleast you think you could be thought of as stubburn, but
have no idea what others really think, if they think at all about what you do, if what you do has any consequences within their thinking, you
could be thought of as stubburn for inisting upon the pursuit of the
construction of a personal abstract visual language when you don't have any notion of what it shall actually communicate. You could be thought
of as stubburn, nay foolish, for doing so. By your refusual to make
paintings which are purely for selling, because doing so lacks any
interest to you, and your interest lacks in painting because you don't
know what to paint, you are. It is at times like these that

http://www.jwm-art.net/art/audio/painting_is_hard.mp3

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Painting^ is ^hard
`='`='`='`='`='`='

Painting is hard when you are scared of it. You're scared of messing up what you've already painted, even when you imagine it looks like a mess to everyone else anyway. You're scared of the unknown, and painting can be an exploration into the unknown when you can paint nothing else but
your own instincts of what to paint. It's scary when you paint
something and later look at it, knowing full well you'll put it on the internet for all to see, and all you see is a beacon for crazies to come
after you. A beacon for demons from outer space to come eat up your
consciousness and take over your body. Oh! Hang on, that was just a
fancy, it weren't real, thank GOD.

Yes, it's tricky indeed this painting lark. Here is an mp3 of some
electronic music I made, all by myself, during these times when I feel
painting is hard. It is for your listening pleasure, the sounds are
lovely phat synths, and some slightly muffled drums. There's a little
cutting up of the drum sequences, and of course, the favourite of all
amateur electronica music makers, the reverb. The reverb is on everthing
I do, because my mind is full of reverb, nnmnmnmnmnm.

http://www.jwm-art.net/art/audio/painting_is_hard.mp3

Don't forget, painting is hard, especially when you've got no clue.

"but what the hell has any of this to do with net art?"

I'm probably misplaced on this list, only being a pretend net-artist,
but I like what is posted here, and feel inclined from time to time to
post this or that :)

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