thanks,

a bit of fooling with artist pretensions maybe, artist talk, important
things and banalities, analities - artists have so much to say, about
the world and themselves and themselves-in-the-world and
themselves-in-the-world-in-the-world
agreed a greed
you might enjoy another post written a pucle of hours later, surely it
would relate to art as an idea-thing-in-one

bjørn
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From: Alias Noemata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28.mar.2007 14:47
Subject: [quarkr] idea for a neworld new oldr


rules for the separation of ideas and things, beliefs and practices

whatever you believe in you are not allowed to practice
whatever you practice you are not allowed to believe in

ideas are not to be realized in things
things are not to be idealized in ideas

you can practice something as long as you don't believe in it
you can believe in something as long as you don't practice it

this will rid us of hypocrisy by making it default

the two worlds

what about causality? the real and the possible? and language, and
self-understanding?

say you believe it's raining -
stop, is that a belief already?

let's define belief as something that is necessary to propose to be existent
you believe in something on the basis that you don't know
for example a belief in god is rather on the basis that he doesn't
exist than that he does. because if he existed it wouldn't be
necessary to believe in him. on the other hand, if he didn't exist it
would also surely be unnecessary to believe in him. ergo, it's
unnecessary to believe in him.
and beliefs in general might be of the same class
when you believe it's raining, isn't it already something you know,
and then already in the concept there's some hypocrisy, something that
is a firm basis in you comes out as an opinion, or a fact comes out as
a belief
also a cultural buffer, people necessarily disagree because they have
their own bodies
if you had my arm maybe not

we went for a walk and here we are, where ever it is

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Posted By Alias Noemata to quarkr at 3/28/2007 05:47:00 AM


2007/3/28, ..ooOO ( media idea ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
dear bj,

what's this?

i'm interested...

it's a good stuff because i don't agree with some thoughts and that's
very stimulating

i mean, he/she (?) answers some things, i don't agree with them, and i
would like to share both thoughts... no discuss, just share...

of course, there also were thoughts already shared, similar thoughts,
and that was stimulating, half smiling because the similarity was in the
sense of humour, feeling that one is not alone with some thoughts... (
some thoughts most of the time playing as if they were sisifo's stone... )

thanks, bj, thanks,



Bjørn Magnhildøen escribió:
> artis interview
>
> if we already had this interview please excuse me
> oh don't worry, the more the better
>
> can you expand on that?
> the more the better
>
> what about quality?
> the more the better
>
> what about quality contra quantity?
> the more the better the more the better the more
> ideas of survival doesn't belong to the tokens
>
> survival of the qualities?
> colors fade in the sun
> the sun fades in colors
>
> in what direction is your art moving at this point in time?
> first of all i don't think points have directions
> , unless you propose a fanzy superstring theory or similar
> could you rephrase?
>
> what are you doing at the moment?
> i'm into social networking, or wireless uh embedded, i like embedding,
> do a lot of things while embedded, and society, society and social,
> network, i have a computer but to get the internet working here isn't
> easy. i think the interesting part of this is that trouble continues,
> that's the meaning of work so to say
>
> in what way is your work interesting to others?
> everything costs money
>
> why do you say that?
> i don't know, let's see -
> because it's free, well you're paying the telephone companies then
> they are my art institutions
> and i have free server services served by other digital art institutions
> i like to do interesting things
>
> what is interesting to you now?
> to get some kind of internet connection, that interests me
> my art is rejected by the telephone art institutions
> (pop music in the background, a draft through the livingroom, noise from
> the street)
> i have electricity
> oh what do i have? when i sleep i don't even have my body, but that's
> wrong
> i think everything is wrong
> that's interesting to me
>
> can you expand on that?
> expansion is a long wrong, a continued deviation, the more i expand the
> more wrong i am
> right things are simple, not worth mentioning, and not interesting to
> others
> it's like books on inner peace which you can buy in the noisy street
> and that's how they sell it too
>
> would you say this is the core of your activity?
> oh i know about cores, you might find them in the same shops
> i'm not against commerce, but maybe i am, that would be a core indeed
> pop music has a core, that's why it's repeated
> repetition, i don't know why we want that
> on the contrary, that's exactly _what_ i know
>
> so what does this knowledge include?
> i like the word knowledge though i don't approve of it
> somehow i have to speak though
> points and directions
> maps of n dimensions
> but at any point or moment you don't know much about where you are
>
> i find these statements quite boring
> well i know some jokes too
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