>Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what >its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic).
I don't recall the text, but there's a big lump representing many like it, and when I see those particular linguistic forms a big "ACCESS DENIED" msg pops up in my head automagically, and unless there's something that speaks to me I'm not going to take the time and effort to get beyond that "ACCESS DENIED" to understand the language used. It just comes across as meaningless if you're not within or near to, those cultural origins. >The text as a whole >clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of >definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested >urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and >individuals involved. It kind of suggests to me, a sci-fi future, superficially utopian, but dystopian beneath the surface, a massive split in society between those that control and the rest (particular genre, logans run or something more recent (a film with clones, 2000+), gattica another one, etc. james On 3/2/2009, "Simon Biggs" <[email protected]> wrote: >It is clear to me and I have no problems with the language. > >The section that states ³the potential of translocally networked spatial >practices² could have been more simply written, however it is clear in what >it says that the research is engaging the potential of networked practices >by practitioners who are interested in spaces that transcend the local (the >way it was originally written was better). The next section, which states >³urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of >cultural participation and self-determination² is equally clear. Urban >network processes are events that occur in urban environments within the >network infrastructures of which such environments are composed >(communications and transport are examples). Geocultural crises are crises >that are caused by geocultural issues. This is shorthand for the >post-colonial politics around access to land based resources by different >cultural groups (Gaza is an example here, as is Darfur). I do not see what >the problem is with the sub-phrase ³cultural participation and >self-determination². It seems clear as it seeks to conflate the >individuation of self (the forging of self) with participation in social >activities (that is, the self depends on others to come into being). Sites >of ³alternative urban engagement² simply refers to places where >non-normalised social activities can be pursued and social groupings can >form that facilitate those who do not conform to dominant social norms (eg: >raves, biker cafes, hardcore clubs, etc). The last three words are, I agree, >a little confusing. What is the object of the phrase ³emerging architectural >cultures². Does this refer to cultures composed of architects or to cultures >that are shaped by architecture? I would assume the latter, but the grammar >employed here is, I agree, not very clear. > >Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what >its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). The text as a whole >clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of >definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested >urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and >individuals involved. > >Where is there a problem with that? > >Regards > >Simon > > >On 3/2/09 10:23, "bob catchpole" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mez, >> >> Does it mean something? >> >> Bob >> >> >> From: mez breeze <[email protected]> >> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? >> >> hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists].. >> >> bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is >> muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is >> inappropriate or unclear? >> >> chunks, >> mez >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> > Yann, >>> > >>> > The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a >>> > "research platform... on the potential of translocally networked spatial >>> > practices." The project, it was claimed, investigates "urban network >>> > processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural >>> participation >>> > and self-determination" in which "sites of alternative urban engagement >>> > are >>> > collected on a database" as research into "emerging architectural >>> cultures." > > > >Simon Biggs >Research Professor >edinburgh college of art >[email protected] >www.eca.ac.uk >www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > >[email protected] >www.littlepig.org.uk >AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk > > >Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number >SC009201 > > > > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
