Hello Montserrat, >Yes it is still possible to be apolitical in New Arts. >There´s still space for total freedom in New Arts. >This is the whole issue. Freedom.
I am probably wasting my time in continuing this discussion with you and I know that you think that I am wasting your time, because you have mentioned this already. But I really think that to able to share ideas and discuss together about art is a precious thing. I am also very busy, doing various projects and making art - some of it abstraction as well. My fave abstract artists are Jessica Stolkholder (USA), Chittrobhanu Majumdar (India), Mali Morris (UK), and I also love the work of some of the Indian artists who worked around the genre of 'Pseudorealistic Art' which was historically seen as nationalist with anti-European sentiments, even though much of it was abstract and mainly about painting it had a political context. Of course, there are many more artists who I respect, and many are not just abstractionists because my outlook is diverse and this diversity feeds my imagination. I think it is important for us to respect that you are trying to communicate to us that art does not always have to be 'literally' political. from my own perspective I make art that is not political as well as art which is, depending on what the art needs at that time. But at the same time I also appreciate the need for a freedom to discuss art as well, whether it relates to abstract art or political art. All art comes alive and thrives when dialogue happens around it, I have discovered much when talking about art with others, it breaks down my own prejudices and informs me more how to proceed imaginatively and reflect more intuitively on my own practice, as well appreciating other art more and where it is coming from creatively, as in understanding much of art's varied qualities, whatever this may be. >Apparently you haven´t got a clue what I´m talking >about, have you? Freedom of thought beyond >politics/tendentious theory mongers? I'm sorry that you feel this way, because there is a very interesting and varied selection of people who use this list, and they are not all theorists, I think that it would not be fair to assume that just because artists like discussing their creativity that they are theorists alone, this is an artist run list and many have not even been to university. In fact, some would be offended to be called 'politics/tendentious theory mongers?' - this is tarring everyone with the same brush and is not representative of the users of the list. Yet, many here still enjoy sharing ideas and exploring through the process of mutual debate. In fact, Marc one of the artists who co-runs furtherfield and this list, mentioned last week that he had not been to college or university. But I know that he enjoys thinking about art, and he is not an academic. (Sorry Marc, I won't say anything else about you, you are probably cringing as you read this). >You guys should wake up and realize that there´s >life after politics. Don´t think I deserve any more >of your grilling. Try to find another subject to >engage in such combat debates. I do not think you are being grilled at all. We all know that art grows and becomes more wholesome for the artist, writer, curator and audience when there is an engagement (dialogue) around the art's context. Surely, this is not bad thing? I realize that there is life aside of politics and very much enjoy this part of my life, but I also value the essential freedom to question and discuss ideas with others when ever I feel I want to - this is surely an act of freedom? Going through the experience of thinking and questioning informs me that I am awake, especially when one is engaged in dialogue with another, in contrast to closing it down - being open to contemporary art and ideas is one of most exciting pleasure's. Plus it helps me to be open to many different forms of expression, which does include appreciating the varied nuances of politics - thus critical, open and alive :-) >Not interested. It is a shame, but thankfully there are some brilliant and diverse people who are interested - and they interest me very much. wishing you luck in your project. Karen On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Montserrat Bru Manobens < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello Karen, > > Cool that you´ve taken "Ars politica" as a way of expression. > Cool that you think that you´re doing "the most interesting, dynamic and > exciting emerging art". > > Cool that you got me engaged here, answering your email about making > politics, because Politics is all you think about, isn´t it? > Cool that I´ve decided to work in something completely different. Emergency > in concept and quality. > > Yes, Zumzum Gallery´s criteria is intrinsically autonomous, non tendencial > and apolitical and our purpose is to promote real emerging arts created by > emerging artists, understanding emerging as original, different and new. Our > productions are always art installations/sets. New TechArts and Digital > Poetry. > This is what we do. > > I don´t dig in Ars politica-Ars contrapolitica. Question of choice, allow > me! That´s why I would never promote any of it. Not in my scope. Been going > on forever. As a matter of fact, this kind of art has been supported by > churches and politicians and any other source of power and contrapower. > > I´m far more interested in presenting new interactive and creative options > to the world. Cool too! And yes, under 30 artists are the ones who really > need our support. Call it positive discrimination, if you want. Cool too! > > Now, to your last question: Zumzum Gallery do not need to belong or follow > any political doctrine. We feel freer than free with our criteria. Like I > said, we chose to keep autonomous, non tendencial and apolitical and focus > in real, emerging options, as we understand them. > There´s no political censorship at all in the part of the world I come > from. Europe. Cannot say the same of India, where I´m now temporarily > located. Censorship over here is fierce in any kind of issue. Anyhow, we > managed to organize the international symposium Digital Power Poetry > successfully, which is great. > http://www.digitalpowerpoetry.com/ > > By the way, I hope you did the survey on Color, thanks! It would be great > if you could forward the link to the Color survey to any school, university, > home for the elderly, etc. I´ll be needing at least 5000 answers to be > accurate and I value greatly the feedback of the youngest and the oldest, as > I get very few responses from them. > Thanks for your help > > Best regards > > Montserrat Bru > chairperson Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts > head curator Digital Power Poetry > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM, karen blissett < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Montserrat, >> >> I am an emerging artist, but your criteria mentions that submissions can >> only include those who are under 30, and you only accept art that is >> apolitical, thus having no interest in or association with politics - as a >> gallery criteria. >> >> For me, the most interesting, dynamic and exciting emerging art has some >> form of political thought somewhere in its make-up. I am worried that your >> decision to only have younger artists who are not doing anything that >> includes political concepts is cutting out an awful lot of excellent >> talent... >> >> I am wondering, is it dangerous in your part of the world to allow >> creative people to refer to anything political? >> >> looking forward to your answers. >> >> karen - 33 years of old age. >> >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Montserrat Bru Manobens < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> I´m working on my new e-book Counter Theory of Colors. >>> >>> I need your collaboration. Your feedback is essential to this project. >>> >>> Hereby a link to the survey >>> >>> http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/0585AD78EB0ABF57/ >>> >>> It is a 10 questions anonymous survey about COLOR, no need to enter any >>> personal data. >>> >>> It would be of great help if you would forward the link to your friends >>> and acquaintances. >>> Feedback from your children, parents and grand parents are equally >>> important to me to have a clearer picture on the subject, please help them >>> fill in the survey. >>> >>> Thanking you all for your time >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Montserrat Bru >>> >>> chairperson Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts >>> head curator Digital Power Poetry >>> >>> -- >>> Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts. India >>> Digital Power Poetry project >>> House 156. Anjuna Zoor Waddo >>> Anjuna 403509 Goa. India >>> India cell: +91 9850781599 >>> >>> Zumzum Gallery.Emerging Arts. Barcelona >>> post address: Gràcia Fiscal, s.l. Camprodon 1 08012 Barcelona Spain >>> Spain Cell: + 34 629486684 >>> >>> Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts. Holland >>> post address: Anthonie Camerling 16 3322EA Dordrecht The Netherlands >>> Holland Cell: + 31(0) 613539662 >>> >>> Skype: zumzumgallery >>> >>> http://www.zumzumgallery.com/ >>> http://www.digitalpowerpoetry.com/ >>> >>> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29089193 >>> http://montserratbru.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > > -- > Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts. India > Digital Power Poetry project > House 156. Anjuna Zoor Waddo > Anjuna 403509 Goa. India > India cell: +91 9850781599 > > Zumzum Gallery.Emerging Arts. Barcelona > post address: Gràcia Fiscal, s.l. Camprodon 1 08012 Barcelona Spain > Spain Cell: + 34 629486684 > > Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts. Holland > post address: Anthonie Camerling 16 3322EA Dordrecht The Netherlands > Holland Cell: + 31(0) 613539662 > > Skype: zumzumgallery > > http://www.zumzumgallery.com/ > http://www.digitalpowerpoetry.com/ > > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29089193 > http://montserratbru.blogspot.com/ > > [email protected] > [email protected] > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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