...EVEN LIVE I FEEL EQUALLY USELESS... MANIK,DECEMBER ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aileen Derieg" <[email protected]> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Web2.0 Suicide Machine now online!
> Although I feel extremely reluctant to comment on this, having seen > several announcements all day, it's bothering me now enough that I > feel I need to say something, somewhere, somehow. > > First of all, I appreciate the idea of both the "suicide machine" and > "seppukoo", and I think it is important to question and critique > contacts mediated through so-called Web 2.0 sites, but I'm not sure > this is the best way to do it. > > For one thing, I find the timing extremely bad. On the one hand, there > is generally a rise in real-life (or should I say real-death) suicides > during holiday seasons, and at a time when it is conventional for > family and friends to gather, the loss of a loved person is felt even > more keenly. To me, a project like this feels as though it is almost > making a joke out of that, and personally, I feel extremely sensitive > about suicide jokes. > > In addition, as relationships and modes of communication are changing, > social networking sites are actually used to communicate intentions of > suicide - not just symbolic suicide. That's hard enough to deal with > without a project like this. > > I think it is extremely important for art to address taboos, and > death in general and suicide in particular are certainly very > difficult and complex taboos. My personal feeling is that this is just > not a good way to do that. > > It may well be that my personal experience in this context is not > really relevant, but since I have such a problem with this project - > even though I understand it intellectually - I needed to say > something. > > All the best, > Aileen > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, xDxD.vs.xDxD wrote: > >> this is wonderful! >> >> i only don't like the "moral" approach of the demo video, but it's a >> wonderful project and application. >> >> by the way, do you know this one? >> >> http://www.seppukoo.com/ >> >> a different approach. they're having quite a hard time with facebook >> banning them after about 300000 sucides and a whole >> community is rising up trying to design support strategies. >> >> ciao! >> xDxD >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:49 AM, danja vasiliev <[email protected]> wrote: >> Tired of your Social Network? >> >> Liberate yourself and your 'friends' with a web2.0 suicide! >> The Web2.0 Suicide Machine lets you effectively delete all your >> energy >> sucking social-networking profiles, kill your fake virtual friends, >> and >> completely do away with your web2.0 alterego. The machine is >> developed in >> the moddr_lab at WORM (Rotterdam), and serves as a metaphor for the >> http://suicidemachine.org website which moddr_ hosts; the belly of >> the >> beast where the web2.0 suicide-scripts are maintained... >> >> Our services currently run with Facebook.com, Myspace.com and >> LinkedIn.com; >> simply enter your username and password for the required service, >> and our >> machine will systematically login to your account, change your >> profile >> picture, and then one by one delete all of your friends. >> >> For more specific information on the Web2.0 Suicide Machine please >> have a >> look at the videotour and FAQ on http://suicidemachine.org >> >> 'unfriending' has never been this easy, >> >> Commit NOW! >> >> http://suicidemachine.org >> http://wormweb.nl >> http://moddr.net >> >> >> >> -- >> . _www_ >> . {~._.~} in the name >> . ( Y ) of the holy >> . ()~*~() grid >> . (_)-(_) # >> . k0a1a.net/recent >> . http://moddr.net >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> > > -- > > In so many words: http://eliot.at > > > > __________ NOD32 4698 (20091218) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > __________ NOD32 4698 (20091218) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
